I'll drive across red traffic sign,I'm free!
I won't pay taxes,I'm free!
I'll pass on people by my car,I'm free!
I'll kill people,I'm free!
If you go in Denmark-or any country-and did that;you'll be captured and punished.
And also if you said a word about Jewish and just said that they haven't been burnt in Second World War..Etc;bad things will be waiting for you.
That obviously opposites freedom being called for by Denmark.
But to swear Muslims and their Prophet;you're free!
For who claim that their countries are countries of democracy,justice and freedom I say:'Double-standard rule is refused by all it contains of meaning'
But in Islam Freedom is:
*not to cause harm to others.
*"O you who believe!let not (one) people laugh at (another) people, perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust"Qur'an 49:11
Feb 9, 2006
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Hi Mohamad
I believe you may not have the correct perception of freedom in Western countries. Nobody advocates that you should harm anyone just because you're free.
The whole "cartoon" situation has been taken out of context in the Middle East. The Danish PM refuses to "force the paper to apologise". It's not up to him to make anyone say anything. It's not like Mid Eastern or 3rd world countries where the president can order people or organisations to retract statements or not to make them to start with. That's the freedom they are talking about and defending.
You simply cannot expect a Western prime minister or president to order this apology!!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
Second: If you do say anything against the holocaust, people will object and maybe protest. This is because what happened to those people is an horrific crime (you yourself wrote in Amillennialist's blog that Hitler committed these crimes, remember when you called him Hitler the Christian?)...nobody will throw you in jail or threaten you with death or burn your country's flag. But anyone here is free to criticise the religion of Judaism itself, and believe me they do.
Finally: Most Muslim leaders said "how dare they do this to us!! WE WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO ANOTHER RELIGION"
Oh dear!! Now you know so well that this is a lie. Egyptian bookshops are FULL of books that are so offensive to Christians, so insulting!! They basically claim Christianity is a big lie (as you yourself believe and you said it to me several times)
To any Christian, that's blasphemous and highly offensive.
El Sheikh Al Sharawi used to sit there in front of TV cameras every friday and "interpret" Christianity in such a flawed manner. Again HIGHLY OFFENSIVE
I caught a taxi in Egypt with a couple of cousins a few years ago, and the driver had a tape on with some Imam or sheikh yelling that Christianity is a false religion and so all Christians are infidels and it is "halal" to kill them or humiliate them. Extremely offensive and aggressive.
Yet we didn't see Al Azhar or indeed any Muslim scholar rising up and saying: No! we shouldn't offend Christianity or Judaism, we should respect everyone's religion.
We as Christians DON'T EVEN GET THE CHANCE TO RESPOND. To say no hang on, that's a misrepresentation of oour faith.
Why the double standards??
Al Fagr, an Egyptian paper, did print some of these 12 cartoons on the 17 Oct 05 – and no protest happened? Why is that?
What do you mean with “I'll kill people,I'm free”?
Hi Nefertiti,
You're Egyptian and I think that you understand that this isn't my point of view about freedom in Western society,
'Nobody advocates that you should harm anyone just because you're free.'
And this is my point.These cartoons harmed more than 1.000.000.000 Muslims under name of "freedom of expression".
I just want to say that they consider harm to their citizens illegal;but harm to Muslims is legal(this is double-stndard rule).I think that you understand that swearing your Prophet is a harm as you yourself said.So duty of government is to stop and punish who harm others,and if it refused;No problem but we have Freedom of choosing who to buy from.
You look like that you agree with me that what happened in Damuscus and Beirut is refused;as Islam oredered us to treat calmly with them and ALL Muslim scholars I listened to them are ordering us to treat calmly with them and boycott them..
And who said that Chiristianity is a false religion?!!Qur'an told us that Jewish and Christianity are relgions from Allah just like Islam!!!Can you tell me who said that!
And an information you must know;not every one who talk or act under name of Islam;must be representing Islam!
And why you wait for Al-Azhar however Qur'an and Hadith told you that muslims respect other religion as:(2:62),(3:3,64,75,113->115),(5:82->85)
And if muslims knew about cartoons about Prophet Jesus;they should have shown the same refusal before Christians themselves..
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Hi lizze,
I know that a lot of papers re-published cartoons,and this Egyptian paper was punished and copies have cartoons have been damaged.
And what about'I'll kill people,I'm free!'
In fact I didn't mean a definite thing;it was just a presentation!
But if you looked to America in Iraq,Israel in Palastine..you'll find them killing innocent citizens and no body protest.
Thanks for commenting,
The 1.000.000.000 Muslims have to weed out the extremists within their religion and then show the rest of the world that Islam is really a religion of peace. Why on earth is this not done?
Currently, very few non-Muslims believes that Islam = peace. You need to show that it is not just talk and actually action on your words.
Since I found out that the Danish Imam added fake pictures in his tour of the Arab world, my respect has decreased immensely and without Freedom of Speech that would never have been found out.
The America / Iraq issue, isn’t it “insurgents or Al-quida“ that kills the innocent Iraqis today? Arab vs Arab? But that invasion/war started on false grounds, at least from UK side. Saddam Hussein was not a fair ruler in his country but there are so many dictators in this world so why him? Because of the oil …
The Israel / Palestine issue, my view is that both parties are equally wrong and there must be forces on both sides that do not want peace.
If Muslims, Jews and Christian pray to the same God – why can’t you all get along?
Hi Lizze,
You opened four very important issues:
First:"If Islam is really religion of peace;why we see a lot of terrorist made under name of Islam?!!"
In fact Islam is really the religion of peace,mercy and justice,but there are some problems that show it in the wrong picture as:weak efforts made by Muslims to talk about Real Islam,misundrstanding of some Islamic texts,bad examples who talk or act under name of Islam,enemies who want to deface Islam,not practicing Islam by Muslims in the right way..
And if you want to make sure that Islam is a message of peace in it's origin;just read about Prophet Muhammad and his Companions.(a religion is-not just only-judged by acts of his followers but by original message)
Second:"Iraq issue!!"
Yes I know that MAY be killing some Muslims in Iraq by hands of Muslims..and I personally can't understand if that was made by America to show that it's the hero who set justice in other countries,or it's by false Muslims just by name and have bad needs......but America existence (which is for oil) caused a lot of harms..and what is expected in a society which has no ruler?!!
Third:"Palestine"
Please don't talk about Israel existence in Islamic lands as it's refused from the beginning;Israel came before 60 years and said that it's its land so how can we talk with it?!!!(Passing of years don't delete your right)
So as a Muslim;I won't accept talking with Israel till it go out of our lands.
Fourth:"Religion from Allah"
Three religions in their origins are from Allah-the One God-but both Jewish and Christians went a lot away the right way;however they're ordered in their Holy books to believe in Islam but they corrupted their Holy books and desires of man mixed with them,and the difference between Islam and both of them is that Qur'an was preserved by Allah from being corrupted so you find us believe in Prophet Jesus and Prophet Moses but they don't believe in Prophet Muhammad as a result of falsification.
"I just want to say that they consider harm to their citizens illegal;but harm to Muslims is legal(this is double-stndard rule)
But Muslims who live in Denmark, and indeed in any Western country, say that they are citizens of those countries.
The real double standard is Muslims screaming they would never insult another religion when books are being sold in Islamic bookshops that slander Christianity and Judaism all over the Arab world.
The real double standard is the very statement you made above, while you will not even admit that the Christians of Egypt where you live face persecution and discrimination
And who said that Chiristianity is a false religion?!!Qur'an told us that Jewish and Christianity are relgions from Allah just like Islam!!!Can you tell me who said that!
I’ll tell you:
“Message of Prophet Mohamed is the last message..
I told you the truth and your duty now to searsh for it and please be fair and neutral during searching and look at what Christianity reached;they go alot away from the right way and said that there is three and Prophet Jesus is son of the god and you have more than one Bible written from minds of Humans..
and there is a paradise and hell;first is for who reach the truth”
“in fact I don't know about Christianity alot but when I read things it says like:three Aqaneem,son of the god and when I know that there is more than one Bible written by humans and sophisticated(Moharaf)(however Qur'an is one and no one can change a letter in it),and in source of bible you're ordered to believe in Prophet Mohamed.......”
“and if you opened Al-Hakeke website it's talkng about Christianity and basic wrongs it has and discus it calmly by proofs,and as you said Change should happen from the bottom up....from the people up, not from the leaders down so.”
The above are YOUR OWN WORDS that you wrote to me in response to “The Truth Accoring to Who” on my blog. So Mohamed, you for one advocate the idea that Christianity is a false religion. Apart of course from people like Sheikh El Sharawi and Ahmad Deedat and if you visit my blog you’ll see some book covers being sold in an Islamic “center for enlightenment” that say the same thing.
As for the tape that was playing in the taxi, you will forgive me if my cousins and I were a tiny bit intimidated in his taxi, what with our crosses hanging on our necks to ask him: “excuse me sir, but who is that lovely Imam yelling out of the speakers that my people and I are infidels??? We’d love to buy the tape you see.”
”And if muslims knew about cartoons about Prophet Jesus;they should have shown the same refusal before Christians themselves..”
Please Mohamed, don’t insult my intelligence. We can’t even have a church to pray in for God’s sake (heard of Al Udayssat lately?? Or are you going to deny that as well???)
Bottom line is, no matter what books Muslim writers wrote or TV programs or audio tapes or whatever, Christians were offended, but we know that our faith is a strong faith, and our God is a strong God…that’s why we didn’t turn the world upside down over it.
Hi Nefeertiti,
Good thing that you love your TRUE Religion which is from Allah,and which we won't be Muslims till we believe that it's from Allah,
but what I said is that Christians go a lot away the right way(which is the message sent to Prophet Jesus)and also said that ORIGINAL Bible has been corrupted;not all of it but basic things like:believing in Prophet Muhammad,Jesus is a human..and I know that rest of it order good morals,hard work,mercy...etc just like Qur'an.
And I want to reveal a point:
There is a big difference between just directing swears,and discussing faults of follower of a Religion and corrupting their Holy book..and your duty is to search is what is said just lies or logical things..
For example:Qur'an told us that Jesus is a human not son of god,and told us when we see a wrong thing to do all our best to change it(absouluotly with no violence)so Muslim scholars you mention their books were doing that not denying Christianity as if they did that they won't be Muslims.
And if you didn't find their books logical and convincing;Qur'an then tells you:"There is no compulsion in religion" 2:256
On the other hand,my duty is to make sure of acussasions directed towards Islam,BUT as I'm sure that it's the right religion just like ORIGINAL Christianity;so I show my refusal of them calmly and prudently.
And a question to you:If there were a faith in some thing,but followers of it corrupted it,is that delete or make Original faith false? I don't think so.
I hope that you understood what I said and you which bolded.
Here you're some verses to read:
*"It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)." 3:3
*"The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. * So if they dispute with thee, say: "I have submitted My whole self to Allah and so have those who follow me." And say to the People of the Book and to those who are unlearned: "Do ye (also) submit yourselves?" If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, Thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah.s sight are (all) His servants." 3:19
*"Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will) ." 3:64
*"It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah.s": on the contrary (He would say) "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: For ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly.* Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To Allah in Islam)?" 3:(79,80)
*"Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. * They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. * Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right." 3:(113:115)
*"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. * Christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer)." 4:(171,172)
*"Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'" 5:110
*". And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. * "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things." 5:(116,117)
*"The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah.s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! " 9:31
*"O ye who believe! there are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in Falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah. announce unto them a most grievous penalty- " 9:34
And another question:If Qur'an wasn't from Allah(The only God),what then?
"Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy." 4:82
"Or are you going to deny that as well?"
And what is the first thing I denied?!!!
Faults of followers of a religion don't represent it.
Sorry for hearing about the Egyptian killed in this accident.
If you think that we aren't sure that Prophet Muhammad is merciful and kind;you must don't have any knowledge about Islam.We were sad from these cartoons because they were swearing our great Prophet;so we should show our refusal,or if we won't show our refusal calmly we would be cold people.
"..but we know that our faith is a strong faith, and our God is a strong God"
and what about who don't know that?!!they would believe lies.
Hi Mohamed
If you don't like that I called you a friend, I apologise. However this indicates you visited my blog lately. I'd love to hear your input on the issues raised.
All the things you listed in your reply don't change anything Mohamed. The fact you think Christianity a 1000 years ago was true Christianity, and the one practiced today is not, simply proves my point.
I'll assume you are corect, let's follow the path you set out:
1) The Quran acknowledged Christianity about 1500 years ago.
2) Islam is the only true path to paradise
3) Christians have, over the years falsified Christianity.
It follows that, and by your own admission, you see todays' Christians as practicing a false religion. Because I can tell you for a fact that you will not find a Christian who believes Jesus is not God and that the Bible predicted the coming of Mohammad.
Don't get philosophical on me Mohamed, this is reality. A reality that sees your fellow Egyptians oppressed merely for their faith. A reality that puts all of us in a big global village...we either learn to live with one another regardless of religion, race or ethnicity, or there will be unrest and pain for us and generations to come.
Listen Mohamed, I saw in your profile that you are 17 years old...so you're about half my age. Indulge me and let me tell you what I think. You can delete it if you like, but at least take a look first.
You are extremely passionate about your beliefs, but you come across hot headed. If you are having these discussions with me just for the sake of having a debate, then lets debate properly. you need to address everything I say. Don't advise me to look at things "calmly" but then get aggressive yourself. You have always evaded answering some questions and addreesing some issues, and prefered to keep saying the same thing about forgiveness in Islam and invalidity of Christianity.
I never faulted you for being a devout Muslim, I fault you for failing to see the reality of what happens around you.
But if you are having this discussion with me with the intent of showing me the error of my Christian faith and guide me to Islam, I'm afraid you are wasting a lot of time you could dedicate to your studies perhaps.
All the best Mohamed, take care.
Hi Neferteeti,
No,you misunderstood me;I was just saying the same word you said to make you know that I read your last article(as you did),also to make visitors of your blog know that I'm who you mentioned.
Let me explainmy path:
1.Yes,Qur'an acknowledged Christianity and Jew about 1400 years ago;as they are all from original religion of Abraham.
2.Yes Islam is the only path to paradise;but it's because it's the last message,and Christianity was the only path to paradise bfore Islam,and Jew was the only path to paradise before Christianity..Is it clear now?
3.Christians falsified it;but just some basic things.
And the reason why I'm saying that Christians did that is that Qur'an told me that Jesus isn't god or son of him,also because it opposite dignity of the God to be in the body of a man,and if he was truely the god why he was eating,drinking,..etc and things human do,,and a lot of questions that opposites logical thinking.
Thanks for your advice,and will be -really- put into consideration,and as Omar Ibn Al-Khattab said:"May Allah bless who told me about my faults".
But you should have told me in my ear not through a microphone, this what Islam tought us.
May you reach the truth,
Bye
I believe you when you say (true, core) Islam means and practice peace. But since there, as you say, are false Muslim out to cause harm both to the world and, according to you, your religion then it is actually up the rest of the Muslim community to sort this out. Saying to me that I should read the Koran will never ever solve these problems. Actions speak loader then words. You seem to have the stance that somebody else have to sort out your own problem and that is not going to happened.
To me, it looks like within the Muslim community you can not have free conversations with each other. I can not put my finger more exactly what it is but it is something like when a radical (false) Muslim preaches then no moderate Muslim will take a stand and show this radical where he goes wrong. I think this is the case because you do not have the tradition of Free Speech.
America does not gain anything (rather the opposite) from these insurgence death attacks, nothing heroic or justice. They would gain much more if these attacks were not happening. Maybe that is why these attacks are being executed, on t he expense of innocent Iraqis lives?
“I won't accept talking with Israel”
That statement will never solve anything. So you need to change your thinking and Israel needs to do the same.
What if somebody who believes in the sun god Ra comes back to Egypt – would you then surrender your land and your faith? No. And neither should you. But you would have to learn to live with each other.
“but both Jewish and Christians went a lot away the right way”
I am sure you remember my argument from our previous discussions what I think about this statement but I will say it again.
The foundation of all religion wars is that each people/religion are the Chosen One and therefore above the rest. You are so wrong in the above statement. No religion is above any other religion.
Be Tolerant; accept other religions and the world will be a much better place.
so according to this discussion
It's not ok to make fun of islam because moslims believe it's bad.
It's ok to insult christianity because moslims believe it's ok.
sounds like double standards to me.
Hi,
I don't know why you're so offended against Islam.It's clear from all your comments.And notice that you sweared my Prophet but I'll ignore it and consider it as a fault.And this is our first point..if you have a word about any thing say it but don't direct swears and you should consider others' feelings and you should make sure that it's not just a false swears..now if you looked to these cartoons they were swears with no suspicion,they didn't consider feelings of more than 1.000.000.000 Muslims around the world and they were100%false swears..and also when you said your opinion about my great Prophet you used the lowest language;so I don't consider it Free Speach but another thing..
I didn't understand what didn't appealed to you in the word:"Plant hatred"
It's not written in a law but it's taken from what happened..just imagine it(don't as it really happened)you're safe and has good realations with a country and then a newpaper in it sweared whom you love so much and think(truely)that he is the best man as a husband,statesman,politician,merciful..etc and he is your Prophet,and the government didn't move;then what will you feel towards it.Will you love them or feel hatred towards it?!!
Any way this hatred has been planted should be removed not just by an apologization but court will be between Muslis and these newspapers,and I won't be calm and happy till we tell the world about this great man(and this what we are really preparing for).
As for burning embassies;I refused them from the first and all moderate Muslim scholars and Islam before all of us..check my posts: A dicussion and Another discussion.
And I didn't said that holocaust didn't happen,and in the same time we aren't terrorists,Understood!
Is that really that you can swear fathers of yourselves.."You can do the same to me" huh,What a justice!What a freedom!
I'm now imagining your society as a place for irony,infinite exchanged swears,no body respect his brother in Humanity and you are always afraid on reading a newspaper or TV to read\watch a false acuusation directed to you........It's not a good place..You may say that Courts will solve the problem,so I'll ask you:Why you make your brother hate you from the first?!!and put courts among yourselves however you can stop it from the beginning!!
Like a ruler in a country said to citizens:'Harm yourselves as you like without any law,and who want to take his right he has to go to courts,but without going to courts no one will take his right'
We under right Islmic state have the freedom to talk about any body whether he was the ruler but not just swearing or planting hatred but constructive critic.And Islamic history tells you that..
For example:Omar Ibn Al-Khattab(a famous Muslim companion and a ruler)ordered Muslims to do a thing,but A WOMAN FROM BACK OF THE MOSQUE(they pray with men)REFUSED THIS ORDER(they have the right to argue ruler decisions and we have democracy)and Omar said:'the woman was right ,and Omar was wrong'
9-11,7-7 two bad histories not just for America and England;but for the whole world:Why innocents are killed?there is no protocol or canon orders that..I'm personally sad for them..Is to start a false War against Muslims you should kill your citizens and then say that Muslims did them?!!
Any way if they were Muslims who did them,they are wrong and don't have any justifaction from Islamic texts,and also this is not Jihad.
Any irony from a religious belief is refused,and we Muslims believe that Jesus and Moses are sent Prophets from Allah so we refuse any swear towards them.
Now your point of view about great Prophet Mohammad;which I know that it's from Media,and will ignore swears which you called Free Speach:
*he was rightly illiterate(can't read or write)but he was the most greatest man I have read about and he taught a whole Umma(nation).
*Qur'an(our Holy Book) is the book which contains a protocol for life(morals,society,policy,..etc)and not written by Prophet Mohammad but sent by Allah to him..
And if he was his author Explain to me how Qur'an told us scientific facts from about 1400 years have been discovered nowadays,Qur'an is full by them ,as it told us about:
Creation of man:
"We created humankind from an extract of clay.We then formed him from a drop of sperm,housing him in secure place [within the womb].We then created out of the drop of sperm suspended [cluster of cells in he womb].And We then made these cluster of cells grow into [an embryo,][which looks like no more than a piece of] chewed meat.Then We caused bones to grow within it and covered them with flesh and skin.
Finally, We transformed this living mass into a different creature, a human being.Give glory to God, the ultimate Creator.[O human, you will live a certain time]and then your earthly body will die;but afterwards, you will be surely resurrected on the Day of Judgment.
23:(12-16)
Expanding of Universe:
We created the heavens with great power and abundance so that the Universe continues to expand.
51:47
(Scientists have discovered that fact theoretical in the beginning of the 20th century ,and on earth in 1929)
Splitting of the moon:
ALLAH said:"The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder" 54:1
and you can find on NASA website an article about it on this link:http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap021029.html/
and you can search for it under "A Lunar Rille Credit Apollo 10" on www.nasa.gov
So how Prophet Mohammad knew these things?
And if it was written by Prophet Mohammad,then why his tribe(who were top fluents in Arabic)couldn't say like it,and Allah said to them in Qur'an:" Or they may say, "He forged it," Say, "Bring ye then ten suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah.- If ye speak the truth! * If then they (your false gods) answer not your (call), know ye that this revelation is sent down (replete) with the knowledge of Allah, and that there is no god but He! will ye even then submit (to Islam)?" 11:(13-14)
And they knew well him before revelation and knew that he(PBUH)didn't learned under hands of any scholars.
So how did he wrote it?!! Qur'an is sent by Allah to Prophet Mohammad to lead Humanity from darkness to light.
Isalm is an easy religion so it orders you to feast yourself without oppositting Islamic easy teachings and the Prophet himself was laughing with his companions,but as it consider others' feelings so it orderes Muslims to : "O you who believe!let not (one) people laugh at (another) people, perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust"Qur'an 49:11
not like West who don't consider others' feelings.
"..if I publish a book.."
Who're you?!!
"And as for america having no ruler, that's not true. They have more than one. "
Oh,I should have explained.I'm meaning Saddam who America captured him saying that it came to set justice and give rule to sons of Iraq.(With what right it came?!!)or if there was a bad ruler who hate; we can come and capture him and still in this country saying that we are setting justice however we are stealing its Oil!
What about Muslim women they not just have the right to vote,but they have the right to be treated as humans,not articles and sources of lust like you West.They can work,learn,teach,drive cars....etc as a human.
Why you judged Islam on looking just to one Islamic country,however there is more than 40 around the world,and before them you have Qur'an and Prophet's teachings?!!
Veil is not a restrict but it's for preserving a woman from eyes of men and Islam is an easy religion which is for the sake of humanity not to restrict its freedoms so Allah said in Qur'an:"..and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion;.."22:78 and woman is ordered to just cover all her body but not hands and face,but if she wanted to cover all her body so she is free and no one can stop her,it's a freedom,just as when some western women wear bad clothes and no body could stop them.
Faithful,
Mohamed
http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap021029.html
and you can search for it under "A Lunar Rille Credit Apollo 10" in NASA
So how Prophet Mohammad knew these things?
And if it was written by Prophet Mohammad,then why his tribe(who were top fluents in Arabic)couldn't say like it,and Allah said to them in Qur'an:" Or they may say, "He forged it," Say, "Bring ye then ten suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah.- If ye speak the truth! * If then they (your false gods) answer not your (call), know ye that this revelation is sent down (replete) with the knowledge of Allah, and that there is no god but He! will ye even then submit (to Islam)?" 11:(13-14)
And they knew well him before revelation and knew that he(PBUH)didn't learned under hands of any scholars.
So how did he wrote it?!! Qur'an is sent by Allah to Prophet Mohammad to lead Humanity from darkness to light.
Isalm is an easy religion so it orders you to feast yourself without oppositting Islamic easy teachings and the Prophet himself was laughing with his companions,but as it consider others' feelings so it orderes Muslims to : "O you who believe!let not (one) people laugh at (another) people, perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust"Qur'an 49:11
not like West who don't consider others' feelings.
"..if I publish a book.."
Who're you?!!
"And as for america having no ruler, that's not true. They have more than one. "
Oh,I should have explained.I'm meaning Saddam who America captured him saying that it came to set justice and give rule to sons of Iraq.(With what right it came?!!)or if there was a bad ruler who hate; we can come and capture him and still in this country saying that we are setting justice however we are stealing its Oil!
What about Muslim women they not just have the right to vote,but they have the right to be treated as humans,not articles and sources of lust like you West.They can work,learn,teach,drive cars....etc as a human.
Why you judged Islam on looking just to one Islamic country,however there is more than 40 around the world,and before them you have Qur'an and Prophet's teachings?!!
Veil is not a restrict but it's for preserving a woman from eyes of men and Islam is an easy religion which is for the sake of humanity not to restrict its freedoms so Allah said in Qur'an:"..and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion;.."22:78 and woman is ordered to just cover all her body but not hands and face,but if she wanted to cover all her body so she is free and no one can stop her,it's a freedom,just as when some western women wear bad clothes and no body could stop them.
Faithful,
Mohamed
Hi unknown man/woman,
Muslims won't be true Muslims till they believe that Jesus and Moses are sent prophets from Allah..so they can't accept any irony towards them..
I repeated this statement so much
Sorry i'm new to this blogging thing and that's why i comment as anonymous.
I will try to be clear. I was meaning by my comment the discussion you have on this post.
You say that the cartoons are bad because they offend moslims. But the other stuff moslims write about christianity is ok because it's just criticism and trying to explain the wrong way of christians.
But that's offensive to christians. Why you want the world to worry about the feelings of 1 billion moslims but moslims don't worry about the feelings of 2 billion christians when you publish these books?
That's IRONY. That's DOUBLE STANDARD.
Regards
Ellena
Welcome Ellena,
Don't apologize,it was just a word I said as a joke not anger.
Christians shouldn't take it as offensive,but should think about moderate books of them,and ask themselves:Are they logical?
And as I said:If any body have a word about Islam,he can say it but just don't use bad language and critic calmly,and Muslims will defend Islam(by writings not violence)
And another point..If you see a wrong thing and hope to tell the one who believe in this thing that it's not correct,but in the same time you want to keep his feelings,Will you leave him,saying that his feelings is more important than correcting his ideas?!!
And what about cartoons;they see that Muslims are terrorists(if they have a point,but they were just swearing),so our role now is to tell them about Islamic Religion and Prophet Mohammad as they don't know..(and if you entered Amr Khaled's website you'll find in Arabic part efforts made to choose some youths to go to Denmark to speak about Islam,and a question:Do you approve to set a conference in Denmark that gathers Muslim and Danish youths,under the name"This is our religion..This is our Prophet"?and to the moment of writing this comment;97%(103699 persons)are approving,and in English part you'll find some translation of Muslims duty and other related things)
In the other hand,it's role of Christians to explain their point of view and show points which these books speak about..
Again you're welcome,and hope that my words didn't harm you
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