Jun 28, 2007

An image about trinity



I don't want to create a discussion with Christians, nor I mean to insult their beliefs. But just I found this image on the Wikipedia and I have a simple comment on it.

If we made it like a math process, then;

If God= Son
and God= Father
then Son = Father

Also;
If God = Son
and God = Holy spirit
then Son = Holy spirit

Also;
If God= Father
And God = Holy spirit
then Father = Holy spirit

And we can extract from all these conclusion one conclusion that;
God = Father = Son = Holy spirit

I wonder then that Son is Father and in the same time they both are God and Holy spirit.

So the question is; Is the problem about the image or the belief itself?!!!

Again I repeat it, I don't mean to insult.

Jun 23, 2007

Aggressor or Defender (Rational talk)


Whether you were North American or South America, whether you were from England or Zimbabwe, whether you were Christian or don't follow a religion, whether you believe in peace or war. Please try to read following words, try to read them neutrally, try to separate yourself from international current situation, and finally tell me what do you think..


Let's imagine that Muslims were a poor people who suffered for many many years, this people always tried to live as one people under one state ruled by an Islamic government but in vain, they always lived torn in various states, finally Muslim leaders gathered in conferences and argued about the place where they will have their state, they though about Mali, Australia, Brazil but they didn't accepted all these suggestions, finally they approved on America to be the place where they will declare their future state.

India (the invader of American lands) promised Muslims to establish a national Muslim community on American lands (exactly in Kansas) and promised not to affect civil and religious rights of non-Muslims groups residing in America.

A group of rich Muslims traveled to America, they started to buy wide plots of American lands and resided in it, they only allowed Muslims to work in these plots, after that those rich Muslims started to bring flocks and flocks of Muslims from all the world to these lands by all their belongings and children and families to reside permanently on these lands, Muslim leaders instituted a semi-government ruling Muslims who lives on these plots.

American people started to feel the danger of those Muslims on their nationalism and they decided to raise up a revolution and strikes against those Muslims and against establishing a Muslim national community on their American lands, India decided to go to UN to solve the problem, UN decided to make a partition of the American lands between Americans and Muslims by giving a half of American lands for the Muslims and the other half for Americans, American people refused this solution, India declared the end of its invade of American lands, Muslims declared their own Islamic state in Kansas intending to declare it on the whole American lands in the future, and they had their chair in UN organization. American people refused this state declared on their own lands. They decided to fight against this state.


Tens of years passed,

and American people continued to fight against this state, and still till this moment,

and Muslims continued to expand their state, and still till this moment.


Muslims still killing American babies, women, old men and youth, and still demolishing their homes, and followed the policy of discrimination between Muslims and non-Muslims (if you were a Muslim every thing is ok, if you aren't no thing will go properly)

and Ameircans still fighting and providing men and women calling them martyrs.


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So what do you think?!!!!


Do you think that India have the right to promise Muslims to establish a national community on American lands?!!!

Do you think that UN is right to divide the American lands among Americans and Muslims?!!!

Do you think that in the way of solving the problem; states should argue about what is the parts we will give to Americans and what is the parts we will give to Muslims of American lands?!!!

Do you think that UN members should gather to argue about ways to stop American threat against this Islamic state?!!!

Do you think that the case which must be argued is 'Are Muslims having their complete rights in this state?' ?!!!

Do you think that the thing which must be firstly discussed is 'How will we make two states together, an American one and another Islamic, on American lands?' ?!!!


Should we support Muslims to still have their state, and condemn Americans to fight against this Islamic state?!!!!

Or should we support Americans to fight against this Islamic state till they have their independence and get back every inch of their American lands, and condemn Muslims for every thing they do in this state?!!!!