Sep 18, 2006

Pope crisis

Sure,you know about what Pope Benedict XVI said about Islam,
In Germany he was lecturing about Mind and Religion and that they can't be separated and their necessity for true speech between religions, and he quoted a speech between a Byzantine emperor and a Persian Muslim literate,and the Pope said here:'And the emperor talked about Jihad -Holy war- and the emperor said -and here I'm quoting what he said- :'Show me a new thing which Mohammad came by,and here you won't find except all what is evil and non-humanical like his orders to spread Islam by sword edge '.And he repeated twice that he is quoting what the emperor said, but he didn't reveal clearly if he accept or refuse it. Then he continued explaining in details why spreading the belief by violence is against mind.
Sure,Muslims got angry because of these words and its vague intention.
The Vatican hurried to present an apology,and the next day the Pope himself apologized FOR the angry reaction towards his words,and for the misunderstanding of them.
I won't talk about any of his words but the problem here is that who said them are the biggest head for Catholics,and he is the religious leader for them,and he is called 'Holiness'..all these must make him very careful towards his words and must choose them very well.
On the other hand what means that he was just quoting these words and that they don't represent his point of view?!!!!!!
It's out of logic to say that, because when a man quote words,so this is for one of two reasons; because they are representing his point of view, or to show another point of view which he reject. And the problem here is that he didn't rejected the emperor's words, or proofed that Islam didn't spread by sword but by its best teachings.
And if he wanted to talk about Islam.. 
Why he didn't say that all Muslims admit freedom of religion,and that Islam don't force others to convert it?!!!!!!!
Why he didn't say that Qur'an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion..."?!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't mention the reply of the Muslim Persian?!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't say that Islam came by what Christianity and Judaism didn't came by like mixing between spiritually and materialism,between light of mind and light of revelation,balance between individual and society,between rights and duties,inviting to cooperation among nations and peoples,give woman her dignity as a human,female,wife,mother,sister,daughter and a member in society..etc?!!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't say that Islam didn't make victory by sword but made victory against sword which has been raised against it since its first announcement?!!!!!!
Why he didn't say that Qur'an says: "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious..... "?!!!!!!
And,if he was talking about violence;
Why he didn't talked about Crusade wars (1096:1291) which were under name of the Cross and which caused many kills and a lot of destruction for Islamic state and was a great example of terrorism and barbarism?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't quote Bushi words: "This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while"?!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't talked about crimes of Christian Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan?!!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't talk about Christians who forced non-Christians in Al-Andalus to convert Christianity?!!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't quoted texts from Old Testament like: "..thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword .." Deuteronomy Chapter 20:(10-13),or "..Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him  Numbers Chapter 31:(17,18)or "..thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth , 17 but thou shalt utterly destroy them.." Deuteronomy Chapter 20:(16,17) ?!!!!!!!
Why he didn't talked about Jewish crimes against Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon?!!!!!!!!!!!
Why he didn't talk about what Christian Europeans do against owners of American lands?!!!!!!!
So,I think that if he really wanted a start point for his speech about mind and faith,and how violence affect the relation between them,he could quote a text from Old Testament, not to quote words which represent a fake about peace religion.
On the other hand,if we compared Islamic and Christian belief; we'll see that Christianity says: 'Believe then have knowledge', 'Believe blindly' and 'Go blind and follow me' and this is clear from the belief of Trinity and making Prophet Jesus as a  God .
But if we looked at Islamic teachings we'll find out that having knowledge comes before faith,and that thinking fruits faith,and will find verses like: "Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding,- *  Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (With the thought): "Our Lord! not for naught Hast Thou created (all) this! Glory to Thee! Give us salvation from the penalty of the Fire "
And if we believed that these words don't represent his opinion,so Is it a good thing to repeat the revile after the bad man says it?!!!!!!!!!!!
It's like: 'What he said was too bad,but I'm repeating it'
Islam teaches us not to revile anybody,as Qur'an says: " Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah..."
So,I say to him,if you opened an issue,clarify it as a whole,especially when it's sensitive,and will hurt others feelings.


rachman said...

Mohamed, you are right about some things. I have judged all Muslims to be the same, but you have shown me that I have been wrong. It is a very complicated world in which we live, and I should not assume that all who call themselves Muslims are the same. While there are many things about which we would disagree, I can see that you obviously love your God very much and that you desire peace as well as justice. I am a Christian. A follower of Jesus Christ. I ask you to forgive me for judging you and others of your faith. I was wrong in judging you. I pray that you and your family may know peace, justice, and truth.

Blessings, my internet friend,

~ rachman

Mohamed said...

Welcome Rachman on my blog,

The thing I always say is that judging a religion must be judging it through its teachings,and judging its followers must be judging good and bad acts as well.

Thanks for your kind words,and hope that rest Christians be open minded,moderate and peace-loving like you,

Best wishes,

rachman said...

Hello Mohamed, I just dropped by and noticed your reply. Thank you for being accepting and kind to me. I didn't know if you would accept what I had to say or not. I guess that I, like most people, forget that people everywhere are really much the same. We all love our families and our countries. We all desire to know the God who created us. I appreciate the opportunity to "meet" you and know you a little better. Perhaps we will speak more together in the future.

And before I forget to mention it, I like what you said about judging a religion by its teachings. How true! And judging its followers by both good and bad actions. You have some wisdom, my friend.

I pray and wish for you and your family, a peaceful and meaningful Ramadan.

Blessing on you,

~ rachman

Mohamed said...

Welcome again Rachman,

I believe that it's impposible to find two exactly the smae in their thoughts on this earth.
And this isn't a problem at all,even if you don't meet with the other side at all,but the problem existes when misunderstanding,hatred and blind bias existes.
And here,I read one of Bible teachings which is:'Love your enemy'.However I don't accept it literatim,but it's generally very good. And also there is another problem here,is that majority of Chiristians are so offended against Islam and its teachings.I see that they don't follow this teaching at all.

Also I'm happy to have the opportuinty to know you,and hope that we discuss more issues in the soon future.

Thanks for your beautiful wishes,


CMinor said...

Hello, Mohamed,
For what it's worth, I have begun to answer your last set of comments to me from Neferteeti's blog. You can find my responses here.

By the way,
we'll see that Christianity says: 'Believe then have knowledge', 'Believe blindly' and 'Go blind and follow me'
I suggest you actually read the New Testament--the whole thing-- before issuing statements like this. These statements are the complete opposite of everything Christian theology states, and are not Biblical.