Nov 16, 2009

MUSLIMS & NON-MUSLIMS | What Did Prophet Muhammad Tell Muslims To Do?

How should Muslims treat non-Muslims? Are they required to deal kindly and justly, or hate them? Are Muslims required to smile in their faces, or stab them in the back?

I believe, many non-Muslims are eager to hear an answer to such questions from the mouth of Islamic resources. Particularly under the big wave of Islamophobia in the Western world, and the number of violent incidents made allegedly in the name of Islam. So, it's important to talk about the basis of Islamic perspective about non-Muslims. Hatred or Love? Marginalizing or Merging? Fighting or Cooperation? Separation or Coexistence?

The best way to understand Islamic perspective about the relation between Muslims and non-Muslims is to follow what Prophet Muhammad said and practiced. This way we can focus on the theoretical principles set for Muslims to treat non-Muslims, and in the same way see a practical application of these principles.

It's important at first to clarify that everything that Prophet Muhammad say or do, is considered to be a legislation for all Muslims. If Qur'an is the first source of Shari'a (Islamic legislation), then sayings and deeds of the Prophet are the second source. Qur'an says; "Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah." 33th chapter: 21th verse. Subsequently, when the Prophet do something or say anything, all Muslims are required to do the same as he did and apply what he said. All Muslims consider Prophet Muhammad as the best example for them..

When the message of Islam started to spread in its early beginning, the people of Mecca started to murder new Muslims, torture them, besiege and boycott them, and expropriate their properties. This sufferance lasted for 13 years. The atmosphere in Mecca has not become suitable for Muslims to live, so they had to immigrate to another place away from the reach of Meccans. The choice was Medina, 450 KM away from Mecca. Medina was a place where Jews settled long time before. The first thing Prophet Muhammad did after he migrated to Medina was to sign a treaty, including all tribes of Medina beside Jewish tribes. The main clauses of that treaty were;
*The Jews will profess their religion, and the Muslims theirs.
*If attacked by a third party, each shall come to the assistance of the other.
*Neither shall commit sins to the prejudice of the other.
*The wronged party shall be aided.
*Each shall contribute to defending Madinah, in case of a foreign attack, in its respective area.
*This treaty shall not hinder either party from seeking lawful revenge.

There are major values seen in these clauses such as; Freedom of religion, Merging Jews in community instead of marginalizing them, Setting the basics of justice and equity, Supporting the right regardless of faith. Prophet Muhammad practiced these values 14 centuries ago!

In Qur'an, 60th Chapter, 7th & 8th verse say;"It may be that Allah will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For Allah has power (over all things); And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. * Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just." In addition, Prophet Muhammad -God bless him- said about Dhimmis (non-Muslims living under Islamic protection); "He who hurts a Dhimmi hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah." Reported by Al-Tabarani. The two verses and the Hadith (Saying of the Prophet) show very clearly the main frame of how a Muslim should treat non-Muslims.

If we started by the Hadith we can realize that it's a big sin and a forbidden thing to hurt non-Muslims. What is a "hurt"? This include everything that would annoy any human; mistreat, transgression and oppression. We aren't talking here about bombing civilian places and random shooting. If Prophet Muhammad considered hurting, just the hurt at any level, as hurting for himself and subsequently to God (Which devout Muslim would dare to do something that hurt the Prophet and annoy Allah?), then, higher levels of hurt like attacking and killing them is an unforgivable crime.

The two verses maintain the peace that must be achieved between Muslims and non-Muslims who don't aim at fighting and driving Muslims out of their homes. Peace for peace, that's it. These verses include all non-Muslims; Christians, Jews, and even the infidels. "Kindly and Justly", a very clear order. Smiling, Giving a present, Exchanging friendly visits, Sharing the food, Volunteering in social projects, Selling & Buying, Medical treatment, Sharing in social occasions, Helping the needy, Giving the poor, .. there is so much other to say, it's simply; "Dealing Kindly and Justly"!

Another short incident that Prophet Muhammad did, but, I believe, it has much to tell Muslims about treating non-Muslims. One day a funeral procession passed by and the Prophet (PBUH) stoop up. The people objected. "But it is the funeral of a Jews." and he responded, "Is he not a human being?"
I asked myself "What is the message out of that?", "What did Prophet Muhammad want to tell his companions?". I think the message is clear. Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam is telling Muslims that when we treat non-Muslims kindly, it's not about cheating them, but it's all about respecting them .. just because they are human beings. It's about respecting their souls and their dignity, whatever they believe in.

In another occasion, a delegation of Christian Yemenis arrived to Medina to meet Prophet Muhammad. The Prophet welcomed them in the mosque of Medina. When the time of their prayer came, they prayed at the mosque, and the Prophet allowed them! Prophet Muhammad is not just telling Muslims that we should give non-Muslims the freedom of practicing their faith, but in addition, we might share them our worshiping places, our mosques, to practice their worshiping. So open-minded, so civilized!

When the Prophet was migrating from Mecca to Medina secretly, the people of Mecca was chasing him to assassinate him, they even sent 10 strong young men with sharp swords to his house to kill him, but God saved him (PBUH). The situation was so risky, any mistake would lead to the death of the Prophet, the messenger of God, and the receiver of the revelation. When the Prophet needed a guide to show him the way to Medina through the desert without being seen by the Meccans, he choose Abdullah Ibn Urayket, one of the Meccans, a good guide, and .. a non-Muslim!
Thinking of it, the Prophet of Islam trusted a non-Muslim in that critical situation. He would easily reveal the secret to the Meccans, and win the 100 camels prize that Meccans made for anyone who tell them about the place of the Prophet. But the Prophet didn't looked at him that way, instead he looked at how good he was as a guide who knows the secret roads to Medina and how honest and trusted he was so not to reveal his secret. The Prophet trusted him i.e. trusted a non-Muslim! This tell all Muslims very clearly that working with a non-Muslim, is no thing bad.

One of the most important Hadith (Sayings of the Prophet) about the security of the non-Muslims' lives is the following. The Prophet of Islam said; "Whoever kills a person whom we have a treaty will not even come close enough to Paradise to smell its scent, and its scent can be found at a distance of forty years travel." Reported by Bukhari
No thing would be more clear. All those who bomb themselves in civil places thinking that they are dying as "martyrs" who will go to paradise, all those who kill randomly by the name of Islam thinking that they are practicing the noble Jihad, and all those who terrorize the safe non-Muslims, all of them must hear that saying of the Prophet. The Prophet is telling them that they will not even approach to paradise after their death.
An application of that Hadith was made in the life of the Prophet. It has been recorded in more than one source that one of the Muslims killed a man from the People of the Covenant, and the case was brought before the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), who said; "I am the one most obliged to fulfill his covenant" and ordered the murderer to be executed. A Muslim was executed because he killed one non-Muslim! That's Shari'a!

These were few examples of how Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, treated non-Muslims. In fact, that's what are we, Muslims, required to be with non-Muslims, those who live with us in the same place, and share us the same planet. We're required to love them not to hate them, to make peace with them not to terrorize them, to coexist with them not to kill them. That's what my religion, Islam, tell me to do.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks Mohamed,

Very interesting post. I knew very little of this history. The part about the relationship between Jews and Muslims in Medinawas especially enlightening.

Rory

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Well, of course none of us were there, but it's been told that the sura (or sira?) is about this powerful, ancient arab man's biography, a collection of quotes and anecdotes, and more than 80% of it (or is it only 60%) is about how to deal with those terribly disgusting "Kafirs" (those ignorant non-believers.)

The Simple Solution: Convert Them, Enslave Them, or just Kill 'Em!

reb

Mohamed said...

Rory,

I'm glad I added for your knowledge.

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Snake Hunters,

Really?

Who told you that?

Let me inform you then that you were totally misguided.

In Bukhari book, the most trusted book about "Sira" of Prophet Muhammad, there are 93 books. They talk about many things; Revelation, Belief, Knowledge, Ablutions, Prayer, Festivals, Eclipses, Funerals, Fasting, Loans, Hiring, Taxes, Peacemaking, Good Manners, Oneness, etc. (All the 93 books are available here http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/)
All the books related to fighting are the following;
-Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad), as 52th book.
-Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi), as 59th book.

They are 2 from 93. Make your calculations again!

Plus, anyone who would ever read these books will understand the greatness of Islamic religion.
You can read them, they're available on the web. Read them all, not a selective reading!

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Mohamed - Now, you have finally given something I can use as a chapter & verse reference.

Good man! reb
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Mohamed said...

Snake Hunters,

I think you meant by saying; "The Simple Solution: Convert Them, Enslave Them, or just Kill 'Em!". The three options that Prophet Muhammad was telling Muslims every time they go out in a battle! Right?

I think I have to correct your deep brainwashing..

First, Islam fought against enslaving people, not encouraged it. In Qur'an there are more than one verse that invite Muslims to free the slaves, ".. for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. .." 5:89

Second, I'll cite the Hadith where these three options are stated;

Prophet Muhammad said; ".. do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them." Sahih Muslim

So, the courses are;
a) To listen to the teachings of Islamic message, and decide if to convert or not.
b) To pay the Jizyah, a tax they pay as citizens who'll live under Islamic state protection, and generally lighter than the Zakat that Muslim citizens pay.
c) Fighting against their warriors under rigid rules of protecting un-warriors and property of the people of the city.

Nothing is better than these courses. If we compared these courses to those that exist in corrupted Torah, we'll realize how great, just and merciful is these Islamic courses.

In Torah, Deuteronomy there is the next; 10. When thou drawest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. 11. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that are found therein shall become tributary unto thee, and shall serve thee. 12. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it. 13. And when the LORD thy God delivereth it into thy hand, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword; 14. but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take for a prey unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 15. Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations. 16. Howbeit of the cities of these peoples, that the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth, 17. but thou shalt utterly destroy them: ..

The courses here are;
a) Peace> Enslaving all the people.
b) Un-Peace> Smiting every male with the edge of the sword, women and little ones and all that is in the city are prey for the conqueror.

(!!!)

I ask you then, what is better? The three courses of; Convert, Paying a light tax, or fighting ONLY against the warriors with the rigid rules of protecting children, spoil, and even dead bodies.
Or the two courses of; Enslaving, or Genocide and Enslaving women and children?!!

Mohamed said...

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In addition, there is a great story about how Muslims applied these courses. Read it carefully;

When the military leader Qutaybah ibn Muslim, the conqueror of Transoxania and China, captured the city of Samarkand, he did not offer its people th choice of becoming Muslims, making a covenant, or fighting. Twenty years after the conquest, 'Umar ibn Abdul-' Aziz became Khalifah, and the people of Samarkand heard about his scrupulous sense of justice. So they sent a delegation of people to him, and the delegation lodged a complaint against Qutaybah, who had died. They said;

"Qutaybah did not offer us the choices that the law of Islam requires."

So 'Umar wrote to his governor over Samarkand and ordered him and the army to leave Samarkand, and offer its people the thress choices.

When the letter of the Khalifah arrived to the governor, Muslims left the city! Most of its inhabitants were amazed that they embraced Islam.

No word would describe this story but .. Amazing!

Mohamed said...

Mr .reb,

A special advice just for you;

Give Yourself Enough Time To Read & Think About What You Read On This Blog, Then Judge By Your Own Self.

I'll be always here to answer all your questions that reveal your real seek of knowledge.

Regards,

Mohamed

Anonymous said...

Mahomed,

Excellent comment, informed and well referenced as usual, I await Snake's response...

Rory

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Mohamed - Finally we are back on track for a civil discussion. Calling me a liar, or "ignorant" is non-productive.
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On Nov 17th, Mr no-slappz has recorded a comment about Palestine > Your Favorite Subject! See it now, and Add whatever you choose.

reb

Mohamed said...

Thanks Rory.

I just hope that he understands that I'm not his enemy, and that I'm not deceiving him. If he ever gave himself the enough time to think deeply about the moderate speech, he would change all his perspective about Islam.

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

I'll state here for your limited audience, that I received your two full pages of comment, and rather than try to answer here (where interruption in common) I've placed it where rory stafford cannot interrupt the continuity.

See: November 18th.

With best wishes, reb
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Mohamed said...

Mr, reb,

Now, I'm 100% that you're a dishonest guy and a liar. You just proved now that you aren't ready to listen to the voice of mind or the moderate speech.

Anyway, talking with you is a wasting of the time. Not because you don't know, but instead, because you don't want to know. An extremist bombing himself in a train station, has the same ideology of you, i.e. "The Refusal To Listen To The Voice Of Mind".

A last thing that is essential to be done is the following..

You accused me that I gave a "non-related comment and scattered thought" on your last post; "Islam is different", and refused to publish the full 3 comments of me.
However, my comments were very essential to be published, as a point view of a Muslim that must be represented in a civilized talk that target revealing the truth. IF THIS WAS YOUR TARGET.

Well, I won't claim that it's related or not, but I'll publish them here, the full 3 comments that I sent to your moderated blog and were censored by you, and the audience can judge by themselves if they're related or not..

Mohamed said...

THE FOLLOWING 3 COMMENTS WERE SENT TO SNAKE HUNTERS BLOG IN RESPONSE TO "ISLAM IS DIFFERENT" POST, BUT WERE NOT PUBLISHED BY THE MODERATOR OF THE BLOG.

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Mohamed said...

Well, it has been so long since I last visited this blog. But now I'm here!

I must start by quoting the writer's following words; "No wonder Hindus, to this day, are unable to fully fathom this hateful ideology called Islam.

Telling the truth, if Islam is that way, cultivating hatred, ordering his followers to murder all others, only focuses on "Kafirs", etc, then it's a philosophy that must be hated.

But the question is; Is this the reality of Islam?

Starting by the statistics mentioned in this post, I must express that I'm completely amazed! I finish reading Qur'an every three months, and I can confirm that these statistics are very irrelevant to the truth.

According to statistic I made, here you're few numbers; the word "Kafir" was mentioned in Qur'an 136, "Kafar" (The verb) 57 times, "Kafaro" (The verb for group) 205, "Koffar" (The group for "Kafir") 29 times. This gives us 445 times. Well, the number of all words of the Qur'an according to many statistics is 77934 words. If we made a quick calculation, 445\77934, this will give us 0.57%.
If we added the mention of Christian and Jews in Qur'an, we'll got the following; "Yahud" (Jews) 9 times, "Hadoo" (Became a Jew) 10 times, "Nasara" (Christians) 14 times. With a total of 33 times. If we added 33+445 then, / 77934, the new percentage is; 0.61%
[Conclusion: The mention of non-Muslims in Qur'an is an approximate percentage of less than 1%] It's not 63%!!

About the second statistic, In Bukhari book, the most trusted book about "Sira" of Prophet Muhammad, it's divided into 93 books. They talk about many things; Revelation, Belief, Knowledge, Ablutions, Prayer, Festivals, Eclipses, Funerals, Fasting, Loans, Hiring, Taxes, Peacemaking, Good Manners, Oneness, etc. (A list of the 93 books are available here http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/)
All the books related to battles are the following;
-Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad), as 52th book.
-Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi), as 59th book.

They are 2 from 93, with a percentage of 2.15%! Not 85%!!

I think these "very lie" information about Islam are just one example of the lies said about Islam by extremists who feed hatred against Islam.

Mohamed said...

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Now, answering the question; "Why are you killing us?"

I must object on the word "us" for the following reasons..

Most of the violent incidents made by the name of Islam were made in public places in the image of random killing. Not only in non-Muslim countries, but even in Muslim countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, etc. The result of combining "Random" & "Public" is that the identity i.e. the religion of the victim is UNKNOWN. It's very hard to predict the faith of the victim when a train station or a building is bombed. The possibility of killing a Muslim in that random killing is very high, particularly when Muslims are spreading in many non-Muslim countries, America, England, etc, whether as immigrants or as Muslim converts.

Consequently, it's so unfair to claim that those who kill randomly are targeting some specific religious group. But the only reasonable explanation is that those who kill randomly by the name of Islam are extremists who are misguided, and are convinced that they are heroes or martyrs (Shahid) who die for the sake of God when they bomb themselves in public civil places killing the old and the young, man and woman, non-Muslim and Muslim. It's extremism that blind the eyes, that they even can't see what prophet said about hurting non-Muslims! (Will be mentioned later.)

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In response to; Just because an arab man 1400 years ago said you must kill us?

It's totally false.

In war times, Prophet Muhammad was saying to the warriors; .. do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. Sahih Muslim, Book of Jihad, Number 4294.

But in peace times he said; "Whoever kills a person whom we have a treaty will not even come close enough to Paradise to smell its scent, and its scent can be found at a distance of forty years travel." Sahih Bukhari

Considering the fact that almost all of states around the world are members of UN, then it's a treaty among all states of the world, including Muslim states. As a result, this Hadith applies on all citizens of all states of the world.

The meaning of the Hadith is so clear, but I'll say it to confirm..

Prophet Muhammad is telling Muslims -with a very powerful good chain of narrators- that murdering a non-Muslim is a very big sin, that THE MURDERER WILL NOT EVEN APPROACH PARADISE. A suicidal bomber in a train station? A random shooter? HE WILL NOT EVEN COME CLOSE ENOUGH TO PARADISE.

That's it, that's what Prophet Muhammad told us. And he even applied this Hadith..

It has been recorded in more than one source that ONE OF THE MUSLIMS KILLED A MAN FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE COVENANT, and the case was brought before the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), who said; "I am the one most obliged to fulfill his covenant" and ORDERED THE MURDERER TO BE EXECUTED.

A Muslim man was executed because he killed only one non-Muslim!

Mohamed said...

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The reason why I came back after all this long time is that Mr. reb, invited me to read this post. In fact, I wasn't interested at first, I expected much of the useless hatred phrases, but when I came here today, I was shocked by all these apparent lies about the very admitted facts and information about Qur'an and Sira. So, I thought it's important to say something, correct as much as I can, and reveal the lies, as a Muslim who is aware of Qur'an, Sira and teachings of Islam.

I'm not expecting so much change, because of big wave of Islamophobia, hatred and extremism against Islam in the West. But all what I hope is a moment of deep thinking. Or, giving yourselves a chance to read the two basic Islamic resources; Qur'an and Hadith (Teachings of the Prophet). We don't have any thing to hide.

To read Qur'an, here you're a trusted website offering a translation of the meanings of Qur'an;
http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?TabID=4&SubItemID=1&l=eng&t=eng&SecOrder=4&SubSecOrder=1

To read Hadith;
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/

I'm inviting all the readers to read by themselves, have a good reading experience, judge by themselves. Not to partially read, or listen to what is just told to them to be brainwashed and defame Islam.

Positivity or Negativity?

Mohamed said...

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SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Mohamed - A Final Note:

The Title Of This Post Asks:

"What did the prophet ask us to do?" A. Many things! Some good, some not.

At best It's a 7th Century Theology clashing with 21st Century Advances in Education & the Sciences. People must learn to read carefully, not quickly skip over the negative parts.

Some things that Mohammad said were positive, and some things negative...from an educated, high tech, scientifically advanced perspective.

That's precisely why there is the obvious split in muslim thinking; some are enlightened, others are ancient, quite primative, and extremely violent. To ignore them is terribly wrong.

Some couageously seek "moderation" and a "cooling down" of violence against the innocents, like Dr Ali Gomaa...others think it necessary to continue on the path of Holy War & Terror.

"War is deceit"- Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, Number 268...Allah's Apostle said: I have been made victorious with terror..." Bukhari, Vol 4, Book 52, Number 220.

To deny this dichotomy, to turn a blind eye to this widening split within the muslim community (Ummah) will assure a continuation until there is a devastating nuclear world war.

IRAN Is The Most Dangerous; they laugh at all efforts to promote "moderation", for that would inhibit their true Persian goal of eventual world domination.

Why do I concentrate on these negative verses in the Qur'an?

Because they are there! - "Blessed are the Peacemakers"...for they are the most courageous of all!

I am not a liar, Mohamed; I am not your enemy. reb
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Mohamed said...

Mr. reb,

I know you have a closed-mind that won't permit you to hear the voice of rationalism. However I have to clarify few things..

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First, What did Prophet Muhammed meant by saying; "War is deceit"?!!

This saying was said when he(PBUH) was talking about the lie as a big sin, but he said that there are three kinds of permitted lie for good reasons, one of them is lieing on your enemy in war time, because war is deceit.
It means that you must hide your power sources, number of soldiers, number of air-fighters, number of ships, number of guns, etc. You may even misguide the enemy about your powers, time of attack. That's the deceit.

Mr. reb, Any state that got involved in any war, they believe in this principle, "War is deceit". You yourself, no doubt, has practiced the principle "War is deceit" in your battles in WWII. Did you announce for your enemy the number of your partner soldiers? Your place? Your future position? Were you stupid enough to reveal the secrets of your American attack plans?

Mr. reb, I'm sure you did not do one of the above stupid acts. Why? Because "War is deceit".

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On the other side, I have already explained the meaning of the saying of the Prophet; "I have been made victorious with terror", but you ignored my explanation..

It's a moral thing, a divine gift. Instead of winning wars through battling and spilling blood, God gave the Prophet the gift of achieving victories in wars without spilling even a drop of blood. God was throwing terror in the hearts of the enemy that they become afraid of meeting the Prophet in the war, then they withdraw from the battleground even before the beginning of the war. That's how the Prophet was making victorious with terror.

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You said; "Why do I concentrate on these negative verses in the Qur'an?"

Mr. reb, Until now, I asked you several times to read a copy of the translation of Qur'an, but you NEVER did that. When you read a full translation of the meanings of the Qur'an, then we can discuss if there are positive or negative verses. Before that, you're incapable of judging. I can't judge the Tolstoy's "War And Peace" if I just read 5 pages in last chapter. Can you?

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You said also; "I am not a liar, Mohamed; .."

Yes, you're a liar, Mr. reb. Just as an example, you refused to publish my comments claiming that they aren't related to the subject to the post, however you know very well that they were about the core of that hateful misguiding post. Yes, you're a liar, Mr. reb. You always claim that you seek knowledge, it's false. If you really seek knowledge and are biased, you would listen to the voice of rationalism and give yourself time to think.

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Not much bias on this blog, is there? Ha! reb

SNAKE HUNTERS said...

Mphamed - Oh, I think I published
your Nov 17th comment, and I think it was answered...I have so many eMails to answer, that I cannot answer all of them, and still do justice to my research. That's what I enjoy most. Research, and more research, all the time!

If I miss somebody, that's too bad; there are only so many hours in a day. Sorry people. Then there's T.V., and my wife to consider...the most tolerant lady in Tennessee! She is First In My Heart, Always...my life pardner for over sixty years!

Happy Holidays to Everyone! reb
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Anonymous said...

Mohamed is correct, I am a muslim and I totally disagree and also believe you completely misguided with your comments.