I was thinking about an Arabic sentence that I heard before. It says; "الإنسان عدو ما يجهله" => "Man is an enemy of the Unknown".
That's true. If you are ignorant about something, then you'll be afraid from it. When you walk in a forest for the first time, you're afraid, you "don't know" where the danger will come from. When you walk in a dark street, you're very cautious, you "don't know" what is hiding where. Even if you meet another person from a different culture, you maybe afraid from him, you don't know what his behavior would be. What if you were told thousands .. maybe millions of times that this person comes from a "Kill-Culture"?!! That he will blowup himself in you.
Now you understood me? Yes, I'm talking about Muslims, whom I belong to and proud of this. Were you told before in the news that Muslims are "terrorists"? Were you told about the bombings related to Muslims? Were you told about the hundreds of innocents that have been killed by Muslims?
ARE YOU AFRAID FROM MUSLIMS?
That's my point. Many Westerns are afraid from Muslims, they suffer from "Islamophobia". If they saw a Muslim in the street they would say; "Where he's hiding the bomb?" or "Officer, please arrest him!!" :) If they heard an Arabic word, they would question; "Is he preparing for bombing himself?". An American friend was talking about "madrasa" as a place where young Muslims are taught to hate Jews. I was amazed, because "Madrasa" (in Arabic: مدرسة) is "School"!!
I would never dare to claim that this fear is not justified. I would be cautious if I were told in my Media in the morning, afternoon and in the evening that there is a vast religious group that kill others with no mercy. I would think; "And when my turn to be killed will come?". I completely understand that. But I blame Westerns that they just follow their Media with no questions, without letting their minds to work for a second; "Is that true ALL Muslims are killers?", "Is that true that they abandon every drop of the mercy that they would use their own children as human-shields?!!", "Is that true there is a Holy Book that more than 1.5 Milliards believe in is inviting to killing the rest of other peoples?". I blame Westerns that they just follow what their Media say without trying to use neutral knowledge sources to gain the facts, without trying to listen to what the majority of Muslims say. Many know about BinLaden, Zawahri, Zarqawi, Qaeda, etc, but if I asked a Western to name one moderate Muslim who say; "Peace must prevail." or "Muslims love non-Muslims" Would he name someone?
Bridges of exchanged understanding must be founded. Muslims must talk about the love, peace, cooperation and helping others that are in their religion. Westerns must listen to them. We're all fed up with listening to the voice of bombers and killers of innocents by the name of Islam. It's a must now to hear the other voice of Muslims, the voice of peace in Islam, the real core of this religion. We should cooperate so as not to give those who use the name of Islam to justify killing innocents any chance. We shouldn't encourage them to kill more. When Westerns begin to listen to the voice of Muslims who believe in the message of Islam, peace and love this world will be changed.
I'm inviting every Western to read what Muslims say. If you have a copy of the Qur'an read it, if you have a book about the sayings of prophet Muhammad read it, if you have a book written by a Muslim scholar read it. You can visit tens of Islamic websites created by Muslims who want you to listen to them. I recommend the following websites:
Also try to watch the videos of Ummah Films on YouTube
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Mohamed,
You may wish to tap into this:
'Here Comes Hillary; There Goes Lebanon' by Barry Rubin
www.barryrubin.blogspot.com
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Mohamed, a fine, thoughtful article here. IF we 'Westerners' listen only to the "Biased Media" as you say, then I would agree... That WE ARE All Idiots!
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IF All Muslims listen ONLY to the radical Imams & Sheikhs that preach hatred, and "moderate muslims" continue to remain silent, that will never build the "Bridge of Friendship & Understanding" that sane people must seek.
I hear your frustration; I know those feelings of helplessness too!
We are not that different! But the next bomb that fires off (anywhere)
shatters Hope, doesn't it?
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Tonight, I have published in "Comments" the 'Archives of over 3 years of effort. I invite you to look over the titles. If you find any Post that you Really Like, comment about it on "A Post-Modern Villain".
I will be most grateful to you.
Still Your Good Friend, reb
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Mr. reb,
Your problem as a Western is that you only see the radical Imams and Sheiks, but you never know about the moderate ones. Yes, I agree with you that there are a loud voice of those who kill innocents using the name of Islam, but on the other side there are Imams, scholars, Muslim talkers and Sheiks who enjoy great popularity among Muslims who tell us about the real Islam, about the mercy of Islam, the peace, the love and respect towards non-Muslims. (In the last Friday preach(Khotba) the Imam was talking about what are the rights of the neighbor, how should a Muslim care for him, share him his good and bad events, don't hurt him by his rubbish, don't hurt him by the loud voice, don't hurt him morally. The Imam told us that these rights are for the Muslims and non-Muslim neighbor).Muslims are not just terrorists. There are Noble prize winners in Literature and Physics like Naguib Mahfouz and Ahmed Zewail (who is currently an advisor to your president, Obama). There are female scientists and writers. There are Muslim talkers who were chosen by American mags as one of (The people who shape our world), it's Amr Khaled who has a wide popularity in the Arab world. Another name is Moez Masoud who has good popularity among Muslims and always talk about the civilization talk not clash, he has a weekly program on an Egyptian space channel.
Amr Khaled, Moez Masoud, Qaradawi, Ahmed Aewail, etc. Those names are the ones who have popularity among Muslims. If you're told that Bin Laden and Zawahri are the ones who gain this popularity then you're completely misguided. Please try to search about these names, what are their opinions, what they say about killing innocents by the name of Islam, what they say about relation between Muslims and non-Muslims. Please do this and tell me what you found.
I'm waiting..
Friendly,
Mohamed
Mohamed, as I've said before, I'm certain there are many moderate, educated and non-hostile thinking muslims, and their are also some wild-eyed, fire-driven holy radical muslims.
In Saudi Arabia, attending mosque is a mandatory obligation, five times a day! This is where Osama bin Laden easily recruited fifteen radicals for 9/11. As I recall, the four pilots were Egyptian. No nation is Over-flowing with Goodness & Goodwill.
Our churches here are filled with
people from many denominations, mostly Christian, many "Praying for Peace" on Sunday morning.
Meanwhile, in Iran they enrich U-235, and preach total Jewish annihilation.
Perhaps those "moderate" Egyptian, Jordanian, and Saudi learned Imams, Sheikhs, & Scholars should also be a bit concerned about nuclear intimidation from Tehran!
We "Media-driven Westerners", and your moderate muslims share an identical problem that needs to be confronted; the sooner, the better.
reb
Again, it's after midnight here... goodnight Mohamed.
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Mohamed, Please go to "Open Letter"
Post; I've refreshed six opinions in
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Mr. reb,
You're assuring my theory, DON't KNOW = AFRAID!
It's not only in SA where they pray five times a day in mosques, it's in all places around the world where there are Muslims. In Egypt, Algeria, Russia, Canada, China, Indonesia, America. That's how we Muslims pray. You don't like that we pray fie times a day?!! I can't see a problem about that!! That's just how we pray! It's about 10-15 minutes for every prayer. Christians pray once a week, Muslims pray 5 times a day. These differences don't make us terrorists and they angels. Everyone has his won way to worship God.
Do they pray for peace, we pray for war?!!
A little note for you Mr. reb. Listen from a Muslim talking about his prayer. We say in every part of a prayer; "Allah Most Gracious, Most Merciful". We end it by saying 2 times; "Peace and Mercy of Good be with you" one on the right side of the head, one on our left. I heard an explanation from an Imam why we say it two times, on our right side and on the left side, that's because we end the prayer by declaring peace to the whole the universe, the people, the animals, the plants, the things, .. everything. Everything on our right side and everything on our left side.
We pray for peace too.
In addition, who brainwashed you and said it's mandatory to pray in mosques?!! I was in Saudi Arabia 2 times, no one forced me to go to mosques in prayer times. (!!)
I'll check your comment.
Peace Be With You,
Mohamed
Some would argue that churches & mosques tend to both insulate and isolate...the mind, to the point where the strongest believers think that all other faiths, all other viewpoints are either foolish or irrelevant.
I strongly believe in our First Amendment Principles.
Our fourth president, James Madison said, "In America, we must have a multiplicity of religious sects; where there is such a variety, there cannot be a majority (of One sect) to oppress and persecute the rest"! Those are profound words, Mohamed.
Let each mature individual seek his Creator for himself, in Comparative Religion Courses, in the Science Labs, In Astronomy, or even a walk throught the mountains!
No man, nor any group of men has an inborn religious infallibilty. Pious claims of exclusivity simply do not stand up to careful, scholarly scrutiny. History reveals the great prevaricators.
Somewhere in the Old or New Testament there is a warning:
"Beware of False Prophets!" The deeply religious ignore that phrase; all faiths emphasize the good, and totally ignore the obvious inequities, and the violence and brutality renews itself over the centuries.
Each must decide, alone. reb
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Mr. reb,
You briefed the core of the religion of Islam in your statement; Let each mature individual seek his Creator for himself, in Comparative Religion Courses, in the Science Labs, In Astronomy, or even a walk throught the mountains!
Qur'an says;
"Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding, -" 3:190
Thank You Mohamed, It's pleasant to know that your Qur'anic ancient writings and the thoughts of a humble old fellow born on another continent, with Intense Goodwill For All People Everywhere, and Malice For None...
have reached a rare commonality of thought and purpose, if only in a single verse, - 3:190
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I have temporarily withheld the other, more stridant comment that you posted, in the hope that you might choose to rewrite it. reb
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No, Mr. reb. I won't rewirte it.
If I was intending to change it, I wouldn't hit the "PUBLISH YOUR COMMENT" button.
Please publish it.
Greybeard Sez,
I'm off to California, north of Oroville for some summer gold prospecting; I see there are irreconcilable differences here.
Did you see where Iran intends to
"reduce the number of "Unnecessary Killings")? The Stonings Too?
Now, If SaudiArabia would "Reduce" the Friday Beheadings just a bit,
that would signal Real Progress!
- Greybeard Albert -
Mr. Albert,
Friday Beheadings!!
Forgive my ignorance, but what're you talking about?
Have a nice holiday.
Mohamed, Do they not have very public beheadings in SaudiArabia on Fridays? I've known about this for decades, from a friend that worked for Aramco for 25 years. Perhaps the King's punishment notions have changed!
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Regarding your last Comment directed at Snake Hunters Post...
I viewed this as an extra-ordinary angry outburst and a rant, an embarrassment for you, so I withheld it; that's the added value of "Comment Moderation."
My Judgement Stands. reb
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Mr. reb,
No, I don't know about Friday beheading in Saudi Arabia.
About my last comment on your "moderated" blog, I can't understand why you viewed it as outburst and embarrassment for me?
I talked about Armageddon, AIPAC and why Palestinians fight against the occupiers and killers.
You know, these two things, Armageddon and AIPAC are exactly the two things that Zionists will always hide and don't want to be publicly known.
Mohamed
Mr. reb,
I was thinking about your sentence; But the next bomb that fires off (anywhere) shatters Hope, doesn't it?That's right. The next Islamic country will be occupied by America, all hope will be shattered for a peaceful future to together in this world. Now America is occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, you can see what's happening. There is no hope for peace when they're occupying Muslim countries.
The next time an American soldier rape an Iraqi innocent girl all hope will be shattered.
The next time an Israeli settler use his machine gun to kill a Palestinian child, or an Israeli soldier use his tank to blowup a Palestinian villager, all hope of peace and two-state solutions will shatter.
When Israeli authorities bulldoze tens of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem, all claims of peace intentions are all faked, all hope will shutter.
When a respected famous man according to his followers has the time to visit the family of the imprisoned Israeli soldier, but never had a minute to visit the families of 11.000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons, then all hope shatters.
Right?
Let's get something straight, and without the "Spin".
Bush "occupied" Iraq to stop Saddam, Uday & Qusay, and "Sunni" Iraqi, and Kuwait & Saudi Arabia
were grateful enough when the monster was hanged! So was Egypt & Jordan. Enough of that.
Bush "invaded" Afganistan to get Osama bin Laden after 9/11. That scum-bag and his pal Zawahiri are still hiding in caves somewhere.
America is now "invading" more forcefully into Pakistan, with more troops and skilled technical help...because the Pakistani Leadership cannot control the militant Taliban, so the Two Leaders came to Washington, DC to get Obama's help!
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"Zionist Israeli" Bull-dozing homes, a soldier raping an innocent girl...is a feeble attempt to change the subject.
That's a debating trick, and it falls flat, again!
There is no Palestinian Disputed Land in Afganistan or Pakistan, and you know it; and I know it.
It's like France blaming the USA for bombing Dresden, Germany and Winning WWII...ridiculous! reb
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Mohamed, This is a totally different topic, and a different subject; it deals with our U.S. Embassy Recent Incompetence in Cairo, and Egypt's Legal Responsibility.
I read about this case on Dr John Washburn's blog "When Evil Prospers", see his Comment Section:
It involves the case of Iris & Louis Andros, an American couple who sought to adopt twins from a Coptic Christian orphanage in Egypt, and having been charged with "child-trafficking".
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"I research it a bit. For those unaware, the N.C. couple ws unable to adopt in the US because of the husband's age. The wife had Egyptian roots and sought to adopt from a Christian orphanage in Egypt.
The problem is that Muslim law forbids adoption and there are lots of roadblocks to adopting Christian children out of fear they will be brought up Christian, and not Muslim (!)
This couple spent some time in Egypt working with the orphanage. They were given a forged birth certificate - apparently without their knowledge - and the US embassy questioned the wife before their departure. She admitted to not being the birth-mother of the twins, and the EMBASSY HANDED THE COUPLE OVER TO THE EGYPTIAN AUTHORITIES!"
Obviously, a litany of errors here; that elderly couple now faces Seven Years In Prison!!
Question: If my friend Mohamed were the Presiding Judge...how would he handle this case? reb
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A good question, Mr. reb!
But I'm becoming more and more uninterested in discussing subjects with my American friend because of his acts towards me, however all my good intentions towards him.
First, by ignoring my direct questions, or changing the subject of the discussion when the main subject is sensitive for Mr. Ralph, You know, when I asked you about the effect of Zionism terrorism, you talked about the number of Jews, the number of Muslims, Muslim "Terror", etc. (!!!) It was very off the subject, you never talked about how should this terrorism would change the look towards Israel. That's just an example.
Continuing to make me uninterested to argue, you moderated my comment on your blog.
Mr. reb, I'm afraid that the discussion is going to a blocked way. When exchanged respect and real will of question\answer discussion vanishes. When my friend will be awaiting only for answers, and never will answer my questions. When my comments will not be respected as they are and will be banned from publication. Then I'm not interested to argue any more.
If I found out that Mr. Benn will respect my points of view, then I'll happily continue the discussion with my friend.
Best reagrds,
Mohamed
Mohamed, If you insist, I'll suspend my own judgement on your embarrassing post, so that you may read it, or print it.
When I ask a simple question, very often I receive a spin on Zionism,
"illegal occupation", or the killing of innocent children, etc always in Palestine...never a word on other subjects, like Darfur, or other muslim tragedies. I do prefer "discussion" rather than arguments. Often, I have no satisfatory answers, when given names or events that are not familiar.
I'll look for your needed post; I believe it will appear on "Now They Call Me Infidel"...
reb
Mohamed, I've found the comment you sent on May 8th. It was so long! It had so many Subjects!!
So many questions!!!
I cannot answer an item like that;
Also, where would I begin? That what Loop Garro did all the time...That's why I thought it would be embarrassing for both of us!
You can find it in...
"Letter To Mohamed" - May 8th. reb
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Good Lord. Mohamed accuses another of failing to answer questions. In Anglo-America we have a saying which is: "That's like the pot calling the kettle black."
The Loop Garoo Kid
Loop Garoo Kid is on target with this one...thank you.
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Mohamed, I read all of your posts;
I'm interested in the How & Why of Egyptian-Muslim Thinking.
I cannot help but to wonder if you EVER read any Snake Hunter Posts*;
* that might lead us into some very interesting discussions! reb
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DON'T KNOW = AFRAID is the title of this Post.
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If there is Goodwill in the Heart,
an Abundance of Available Truth, and an adequate supply of Common Sense...we need not be grouped among the Sadly Herded Blind-Followers. Skepticism might be viewed as a Devine Spiritual Gift!
Then we'll have nothing to fear, but fear istself! reb
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Since The Posting of "Open Letter To Mohamed" has produced little in the way of an Adequate Response...
Perhaps I Could Get A Bit More From Another Favorite Adversary; I'm thinking of The Loop Garoo Kid.
Hmmm! Should I next Post one naming
my old friend, Loop Garoo? This Lefty American Attorney Might Give Us More To Digest, More To Stimulate A Real Discussion? Hmmmmm!
Of course, that would give Loop another shot at defending "Monster-Man" George Soros; maybe that's a risk worth taking, Wot?
reb
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LGK,
Then should I assume that you're the one who answer the questions!!
Ok, you're ready now to answer? Then follow these steps;
a) Scroll to (History vs claims) post.
b) Read it very well.
c) Read it again
e) No, No, I mean it.. Read it again.
f)Think about the following;
*Who started the conflict, Zionists or Hamas?
*When one side has started it by massacres, bombing markets, buses, raping innocent women etc, then how should this make us understand the reaction of the other side?
Can you answer these questions?
You can't!!!!
That's what I expected. I'm expecting talking about Hamas "terrorism", the Islamic Jihad, the bombing of buses(by Hamas not Lehi and Irgun), Dhimmis bla bla bla, and never talking about Zionist massacres and bombings that started in a time when Palestinians never did one sole warrior act against the new comers. That's what I'm expecting from Garoo Kid, never talking about the subject, just throwing stones.
Good luck
Mr. Ralph,
Let me surprise you. I've already read some of your posts that were related to my interests. I translated your post (Egypt's double game) into Arabic. I read your two posts by Nonie Darwish. I copied and pasted the one about Islam in a Word doc highlighting some points to make my comment about. But as I told you, I'm becoming more and more not interested to discuss. Blocking my comments, ignoring my questions and changing the subject are all reasons to make me not interested in making discussions.
You can realize what I'm talking about when I tell you about your answer to my last question about Armageddon. You said that you prefer to focus your attention on current problems!!!!!
Let me express my great amazement. You always talk about 12th Imam. Mr. reb, this is a thing of the past too. You only want to talk about the 12th Imam, and never want to talk about Armageddon?!!!! It's a reason to make me amazed, and not so willing to discuss.
[A little clarification: Shia Muslims believe in 12 Imams who are ended by the Mahdi, the 12th Imam. But we Sunni Muslims don't believe in the 12 Imam, we only believe that there is a good man who'll show up at the end of the time who will rule the earth side by side to prophet Jesus when peace and prosperity will prevail before Judgment day. This man is Al-Mahdi]
Waiting for your (answer?)
Mohamed
Now That's A New One For Me To Digest! A Muslim Prophet & a Christian Prophet join forces at the end of times to bring peace & security to a grim & bloody war-torn world! What a wonderful theory, with such as delightful ending!
Does Ahmadinejad know of this?
I can just imagine Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah & the Jews all joining hands...laughing, singing and dancing to a merry and ever-widening circular of friends, and the little children happily playing together, and sharing their toys and candy!
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Then what will happen to all of the rude, skeptical folks like me?
Will old Satan put us in chains kicking & screaming, and drag us down into an eternal fiery pit, to suffer forever & ever? reb
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Mohamed,
I'll have a top-drawer 10-Point History of WWII summary to be published the first week in June on Snake Hunters Blog.
This One...will be a challenge for our own school teachers here in the USA.
It also promises to be of great benefit for the Egyptian History Classes, IF those teachers will display the courage to translate, print and distribute it widely! reb
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Mr. reb,
I'll try to read your post about WII. I just hope it covers all perspectives not a sole one.
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You asked "what will happen to all of the rude, skeptical folks like me?"You wondered if you'll be put in chains kicking & screaming, and dragged down into an eternal fiery pit, to suffer forever & ever?I'm not God to answer such question. Only God decides who will go to paradise, and who'll go to hell.
But all what I can tel you is that not all Muslims will directly enter paradise, and not all non-Muslims will go to hell.
From one side; Muslim sinners who didn't repent before death will go first to hell to be cleaned, then they'll go to paradise.
On the other side; Jews who believed in Judaism before the coming of prophet Jesus, they will go to paradise. Also, Christians who believed in prophet Jesus before the coming of prophet Muhammad, they will go to paradise.
Also, those who never knew about the messages of God to Earth, like a tribe in an isolated far area that had no messenger from God to it, they'll go to paradise too.
That's what Qur'an and the prophet told us.
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You know Mr. reb, what is the difference between us?
It's the belief in the next life. Did you think before about it?
Mohamed
Mohamed,
Perhaps that's why I'm so fortunate in finding your blog!
Another Unknown Muslim Doctrine!
Before "unrepentant sinners" (and suicide-bombers too?) are allowed into Paradise, they must first enter a "temporary hell" to be cleaned?" Is that correct?
Do Sunni & Shiite share this belief? Most Christians believe that Hell Is Forever! Roman Catholics believe in a Purgatory place.
Who can say which doctrine is correct?
The Agnostics admit that it's impossible to really know about these complex perspectives. Is that bad, or inexcusable?
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There is little room for lingering
doubt about the VERIFIABLE FACTS of WII that I've Posted on May 31st.
If Mohamed has read our "Summary Of WWII", Mohamed's honest opinion in S/H Comment Section...would be greatly appreciated.
Your friend, reb
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Mohamed,
I've been patiently waiting for your response to S/H Posting of "Summary Of WWII", and I believe the delay was directly tied to Obama's visit to Riyadh & Cairo.
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This morning, I saw and heard a small, but very important part of his speech. I refer to the fact that Prez Obama has two daughters, and NO sons. How Very Fortunate!
Obama's speech went right to the heart of the multiplicity of problems facing these manifold cultural differences.
a) The vastly differing view of the
role of one-half of the human race,
namely women and girls.
b) One culture believes in a non-equal, ever-subservient role, where men are always dominant, by devine right!
c) The other cultural heritage believes in the absolute equality of opportunity of education...in mathmatics & science, in astronomy, in engineering & architecture, in medicine, in business, in law, and in the teaching professions.
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To legally deny these basic human rights, is to ultimately stifle all progress within that culture, and the basic set of rules governing 'conduct & thought' leading to class-distinctions and the festering of ancient hatreds, and finger-pointing of blame, and thusly to Inevitable War.
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Mohamed's Views are always most welcome on Snake Hunter's weblog. reb
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Wowee! The muslim brotherhood received an earful today from an American President!
Bravo Obama! Freedom of Religion!
The Inherent Equal Rights Of Women!
King Abdullah & Prez Mubarak and all fair-minded moderate muslims of the Middle East will have much new material to think about and discuss. How will Iran's Grand Ayatollah Ali Khomeinei react?
Is this the Beginning of Real CHANGE in that troublesome part of the world? We shall see. reb
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This question was posed earlier in the day - "How will Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khomeinei react?"
--> Ali said: "Words and slogans won't change anything."
Q. Did it change anything in Cairo?
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Mr. reb,
I hope you give me two days to answer your questions. It's final exams season and I'm very busy studying.
Mohamed
June 6th, 1944 Marks A Proud Day Of Rememberance for the Allied Forces that assaulted Hitler's Fortress Europe; an upbeat and hopeful day in history's most grim and deadliest conflict on six continents, and a dozen nations suffered.
The Russians were destined to lose 26 million souls before Nazi Germany's Panzer Divisions were destroyed, and Hitler's factories were obliterated, and the Death Camps of Hapless Jews Liberated!
U.S. and British Ships bombarded coastal guns, 5,000 bombers roared overhead, Paratroopers dropped behind enemy lines, and Rangers climbed the cliffs to reach the high-ground above the blood-soaked beaches far below.
Every young trooper that day was asked to shoulder the responsibility and the hope of a return to freedom & justice for all nations, all cultures. The outstanding bravery of ordinary young men, doing extra-ordinary duty.
General Eisenhower's Allied Asssault on Nazi Imperialism was successful. The "U.S. Arsenal of Democracy" was geared-up to provide the war material To Assure Freedom & Justice For the Next Generation.
Read "Summary Of WWII", then pass it along to those that are unaware of those times...65 years ago today. reb
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One Religion blasting another, seeking to impose their own unique brand of "Devine Authority".
None are Pure, not One.
Where's the Logic, Reason, and Necessary Goodwill of the Statesman, the Diplomat, Scholarly Historian, or the Soft-spoken Agnostic?
"There lies more faith in honest doubt, believe me, than in half the creeds." Tennyson
Reviles accomplish nothing at all; Nothing! reb
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Amilleniallist! It is good that you provide the hard point-by-point evidence of the violent nature of any and all religious notions; I have no quarrel with it.
The Mind Is A Sponge. My friend Mohamed grew up in a culture that is rigidly intolerant of all other faiths, and yet he is trained to listen to both sides; so logic, reason, and fact-based evidence also is favorably recorded.
When we began discussions, I was disturbed with his parochial views of WWII, and his mistaken ideas that the USA Was EVIL because of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki Conclusion of That Grim War.
It seemed obvious that my friend knew nothing of Japanese (brutal)Imperialism in Manchuria (1931) or the 'Rape of Nanking' (1937), or the "Devine Wind" Kamakazi Suicide Pilots in WWII.
The Entire World Desperately Needs an Accurate History of the 20th Century...to counter the Vicious Lies of Anti-American Propaganda.
I would also deem it a consideration if you would read and comment on our "Summary of WWII" ? - Then, scroll down to "PostModern Villain" - reb
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Mohamed, on June 6th you said that you were busy with final Sharia exams, "Give me two days"...
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Now, on June 12th, another bold gentleman, Amillennialist, has given us more to think about and discuss, including accurate quotes
from your Holy Qu'ran! Should we continue with this calm discussion? I would like that very much. Your 'non-moderated' forum is O.K., but there is a wider possible audience on our Snake-Hunters blog, and I'll offer Equal Access to any Round-Table Discussion...with access limited to people that appreciate honesty and free-speech guarantees, with No Interruptions, No Reviles, and where dirty language and rudeness to our guests is strictly prohibited.
You may take all the time you need;
You Choose Any of Our 83 Posts from the Archives.
What say you, Mohamed?
reb --- June 12th, 2009
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Extremes of Violence are not exclusive to Islam alone, nor to its Holy Qur'an.
In my copy of the Holy Bible, I opened it to Joshua 6:20-21 where there was a bloodbath in Jericho, where "man and woman, young and old, and sheep and ox and ass" were butchered with the edge of the sword!
This was many centuries before there was a Holy Qur'an!
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We moderns have far more efficient methods for mass-murder today, and any remaining survivors of a nuclear holocaust will be among the very unfortunate few.
Does that King in Riyadh, or the Grand Ayatollah in Tehran really believe that their ornate castles are somehow devinely immune to such unimaginable devastation?
What Utter Fools We Mortals Be. reb
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EVERYTHING That You & I Can Do...To
Provide, and Alert a Sadly Unaware Generation with an Accurate History, and with a Solid Source of Verifiable Information of Current Events, plus a Bold Voice to Counter to the Negative Propaganda, is a Most Beneficial Effort.
Who can ask for a greater reward?
This must be our noble goal; our sacred duty to future generations.
The alternative is to just sit there on your tail,
doing nothing!
reb
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Patiently waiting (with courtesy, but not holding my breath.) Perhaps
we should try your photo-gallery for more of those great sunsets!
reb
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IRAN'S YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SHOWING GENUINE COURAGE IN OPPOSING THE ONE-MAN RULE OF ALI KHOMENEI.
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Will the "moderate muslims" in the MiddleEast raise their voices in support of this young majority?
reb
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Mohamed,
If you posted a comment about Obama
Speech in Cairo, that is very good,
but I did not receive it. Please send it again, I Will Publish It!
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Even more important to me was your perspective of "Summary Of WWII".
Was it interesting for you? Did you think it provided rare & valuable historical information? Was it accurate? Would Egyptian students gain an important historical lesson from these few pages if translated?
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I believe American Students really need more World & American History to Avoid and Counteract the Vicious Propaganda of TV Media!
Your Views Are Valued! reb
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Amillennialist,
Longtime since we last had the ... I don't know how to call it, it's not anyway a discussion. You never tried to listen to my evidences and explanations.
I told Mr. reb that I'll test you and see if you really want to discuss and exchange points of view, or just reviling and twisting verses out of their context not ready to hear their explanations.
Wait for my comment..
Mohamed AND Mr "A"...
Hoped For An 'Opening Statement'
From Two Gentlemen
On Our - 'Memorial Parade' - Post
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Someone, please begin where there is the possibility for a wider audience. reb
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Mohamed,
Any Empty Round-Table and 3 Empty Chairs Produces Nothing of Value.
Where Are The Opening Two or Three Short Paragraphs...from Mohamed & Mr "A".... to get this discussion rolling?
If I choose to walk one mile, then
I must take the first step! Let's begin;
why the long delay? reb
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Don't Know = Afraid
Is that the reason for the delay?
reb
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اخى الكريم محمد الحمد لله على سلامتك وعودتك الى مدونتك الظريفة والى جمهورك وارجو منك ان تجعلنى من احد مدوناتك المفضلة حتى اصل الى الجمهور وماتخافش مش هاخد الاضواء
منك فانتم الاصل دوما والسابقون بالخيرات
والى رضوان الله ان شاء الله
We are now anxious to see your next
article on "The Muslim's Dhimmi Population." reb
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