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According to newspapers and news channels Israel admits that it doesn't allow Palestinians living inside Gaza to import some goods like cilantro, chocolate, jam, flowerpots, nuts and notebooks. The justification provided by Israeli Defense Ministry -which is responsible for the siege enforced against Palestinians inside Gaza- is that this ban is for protecting "national security" of Israel!!!!!
If toys, chocolate and cilantro are what Israeli government considers as "THREAT" to its national security and even diplomatic relations, then would we swallow any justification from it for any procedure it executes against Palestinians?
Now is the time to think about a long history of oppression and terrorism regularly practiced against the people of Palestine, by those who pretend to suffer from a genocide they call "Holocaust"!!
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Mohamed - If you go along with those who pretend there was no holocaust when there's a thousand documents & film to give the world a true historical picture -- and if we can be led into believing
that there was no 1400 years of jihad, your Understanding Islam Post loses credibility. - reb
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Snake Hunters,
I thought you have decided not to visit my blog anymore. Did you change your mind?!!
As usual you cannot abandon your two ugly feathers;
a) Ignoring what you cannot discuss.
b) Twisting the words out of their meanings.
Snake Hunters,
I didn't say that I don't believe that there was a massacre called by Jews as Holocaust committed by Nazis against people with disabilities, homosexuals, Romani and Jews.
If there is some reason that will make me disbelieve in this massacre (in its part regarding Jews) it will be the acts of Jews themselves against Palestinians..
Jews claim that they suffered from killing their children, women and elderly, when they are doing the same thing against Palestinians!!
I believe that any "human" who suffers from some image of oppression will be keen to fighting against this oppression, not to execute it against another people!!
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Now, what is your comment about the subject of the post?
Do you think it's making sense that Israel relates its "national security" with cilantro and toys of children?!!
Mohamed - Nice graphics on your last two posts, but in saying that
is about all I can say, the content simply does not measure up to your best efforts, which was on February 6th with "Good Belief, Bad Believers" -
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When you go off-track and start calling names, or deleting important points, I felt it was time to spend my efforts elsewhere, so I go to worthy and informative Links; I read and think about what others say, and occasionally comment.
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Your interpretation of Palestine & Gaza problems are always slanted; Cilantro, chocolate & toys are not the problem, and you know it.
The interruption of the importing of goods and services into Gaza is probably a minor reaction to the larger issues. This conflict has no serious solution because there is a total lack of goodwill from both sides, and because it is in Iran's selfish interests to keep that pot boiling. This will never diminish until the mythical 12th Imam returns!
It's the same in Iraq, where Muslims kill Muslims, and nobody has the will and the good intentions to end the slaughter. So 90 die, and twice that many are wounded in the recent bombings.
It's always the innocent that pay the heavier penalties. Sad, isn't it?
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If you would prefer to chat on Rory's Blog, that's O.K. too. Just give me the word, and I'll stay off this channel.
reb
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Hi Mohamed,
I haven't kept up with news about Israel's blockade lately. I hope that food stocks and medical supplies are arriving from offshore now.
I'm certain Israel needs security just as all places need it. Israel needs to realize it cannot protect those of Persian descent from who make hostilities against them at this time. One needs a way of filing grievance. One needs to live under a just system, first.
Ann,
Nice to see you back here.
The problem now and since the declaration of Israeli state (62 years later, and even before) is that the security of Israel means the terror of Palestinians. Why?
a) The relation between the new comers (Eastern and Western European Jews) and those who lived for many generations on this land (Arab Palestinians, Muslims, Christians and Jews) was truly bad.
History tells us about many terrorist attacks committed by Eastern and European Zionist groups. Markets and transportations bombings, attacks against Arab civilians, attacks against police stations, etc. (All is recorded on the web, and my post History vs Claims is recording many of these Zionist terrorist attacks).
b) Israeli government and subsequently the Israeli people who elected this government don't want to make real peace with Palestinians. Many evidences prove that..
-Benjamin Netanyahu declared that Israel will never give any occupied lands after 1967 to Palestinians, that means that any peace negotiations are nonsense.
-Israeli government is continuing to build more and more settlements on the Palestinian occupied lands (after 1967) which is considered by many countries as a violation to international law and an added obstacle stone on the way of peace negotiations.
-Israeli government is excavating more and more tunnels under the holy mosque of al-Aqsa, which is considered by a Milliard and 300 Million Muslims as the 3rd sacred place on the Earth, after al-Masjid al-Haram in Mecca, and Prophet's mosque in Medina. It's a real threat to the mosque and a real danger on its safety.
-Israelis now are insisting to call all the occupied Palestinian lands as a "Jewish place" which deletes all hopes of a peaceful coexistence among Muslims, Christians and Jews on this land.
-Recently there is video tape made by extremist Jews showing the demolition of al-Aqsa mosque, and the building of a Jewish temple on the ruins of the mosque. They show it to their children saying that they want their children when they grow up to be pilots who will strike the mosque!!
c) To achieve its "security", Israel assault many rights of Palestinians starting by the right of life itself, and ending by the right of free moving. It makes a variety of procedures like:
-Building the West Bank Barrier, which affects the economic life of Palestinians, their freedom to move from a place to another, and leads to the expropriation of their lands that they plant for their living.
-Sieging the Gaza stripe and enforcing a 500:1000 meters buffer zone around the stripe where all lands of Palestinians cannot be implanted. Plus their sufferance from the siege in their daily life. Electricity, food, clean water, medicine, rebuilding demolished homes in 2008, etc.
-Spreading hundreds of inspection crossings in Palestinian cities which hampers the flow of Palestinian civilians inside their country and trade.
For all these reasons security of Israel and security of Palestinians cannot match anyway. And for the same reasons peace negotiations are nonsense, only armed resistance is the solution.
Maybe you're shocked by my last sentence, but Mrs. Ann let me tell you that I'm not a terrorist. I can see an apparent difference between a suicide bomber who blows up himself in a train station in Madrid or New York, and a young man who holds his gun firmly and points it against an occupier of his land. The first is a terrorist, and the second is a noble fighter seeking his freedom who must be respectfully hailed.
I hope you tell me your feedback.
Regards,
Mohamed
Really, Mohamed, I think most governments are afraid to publicly speak against Israel.
You have to wonder what kind of other terror planning and actions have or might take place after reading or watching videos of Israel's land reform in the Palestinian Territory.
If two cultures, those of Persian descent and those of the Jewish religion, deny each others existence, the more tooled culture will win the struggle.
This is my opinion after taking time away from the battle for survival of Palestinian lands and its people.
But, at the same time, Israel has been so ruthless. Public outcry seems to somehow empower the minds and hearts of Israeli leaders.
Knowing anything about seclusion and abuse easily leads to an opinion about what to do. You work to do away with the entire governing organization unless a stop order is placed and then followed upon locally interned areas.
Along with these actions, just and prudent interviewing must begin in order to establish a timeline and a list of claims from both parties involved. It's an investigation.
Who has the power to do away with the governing organization if a stop order does not occur? This leads back to my original statement. That being, "I think most governments are afraid to publicly speak against Israel."
Do you agree with any of my comment? Point out where I might be misguided.
Ann
Mohamed - Rory claims to have a Free Speech Channel, and I wish I could return to my policy of two years ago, but Loop Garro abused the privilege with Aunty Em (a nice person, but too talkative on her personal life) and my blog became their chat-room, so I first warned them, then deleted them.
So, Loop Garoo was offended, and referred to me as a censor!! Then a lady from PP (Valerie) teamed with Garoo, and it became childish & hopeless, so I was forced to "moderate" a good 'Open Channel'
just to maintain control.
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Now, I have a PP pinhead with a foul mouth on Rory's Blog, that is hoping to force me into exchanging
insults, to what logical purpose?
Hah! This dunce thinks I'll answer him...his friend S**t-Stirrer tried dirty insults for 5 Months before giving it up!
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Read your words under your U.I. Banner...You Want Discussion, not "reviles and dirty words".
Calm Table Discussions, are where Republican, Democrat, Socialist,
Progressive, Conservative, Independents, Boston Tea-Party, Libertarians can ALL exchange thoughts without some toilet-mouthed dim-bulb interrupting serious discussion.
Imagine Christians, Buddhists, Moderate Muslim, Moderate Jews,
Catholics and Agnostics, all politely discussing world issues!
Palestine, Gaza, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the war in Afganistan and
IRAN.
Is Nuclear war inevitable?
I cannot guarantee that serious, business-like chats would work well, but I'd like to try it.
If you don't like the idea, then please delete this; I'll have plenty to do 'til November..It will be a long, hot political time in the U.S. this summer, and I'm really looking forward to it!
2:05 AM here, Goodnight. - reb
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Snake Hunters,
The "Chamber of Exchanged Trust", it's very important to me. One time you put a brick to strengthen it, tens of times you hold firmly your axe and destroy it brick by brick.
If you ever want to make a REAL discussion with me, prove you really want to DISCUSS => Strengthen the "Chamber of Exchanged Trust".
Does "strengthening the chamber" include being submissive to Islam?
If that's your terms, I must be direct; I cannot do that. I love my 1st Amendment Freedoms too much to try clever deceptions, or to lie to you. I'm too old for that.
reb
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Snake Hunters,
On October 15, 2009 you published a post about peaceful coexistence among Muslims, Christians and Jews. I ask you then,
Do you think that any of those who participated in such wonderful coexistence experiences had to "submit" to each other's belief?
Mohamed - Of course not! In casual friendly discussions people are not forced to "submit", or feel subdued to anything, or anyone.
However, in your most cherished book we read these words: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah nor in the Last Day, not hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya (tax) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Qur'an 9:29
reb
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Snake Hunters,
Here you're a simple explanation for this verse..
I guess you're not understanding the last part of the verse which says what means; ".. until they pay the Jizya (tax) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued"
First of all, Jizyah is an amount of money that non-Muslims pay for the government for not taking part in protecting the country where they live in, i.e. for not joining the country's army.
ِAnother important information about Jizyah..
In his book, "Rules of Dhimmis", Ibn Al-Qayyem said that the Jizyah isn't paid when the person is in need.
And it's recorded that Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the second Muslim caliph saw an old Jewish man begging in the street, he asked him: "What's the matter with you?" The Jewish man answered: "I'm begging for paying the Jizyah." Umar said: "By Allah, we weren't fair with you. Should we take it from you as a young man, and lose it on you when you became an old man? By Allah, I'll give you from the Muslim's house of money (treasury)."
ِAnd in Qurtuby's book, "Al-Moat'a, Book of Zakat", he said; "Our scholars said that what Qur'an clarified is that Jizyah is taken only from free adult men who are able to fight, and it's not taken from women, littles, slaves, lunatics and elderly."
Jizyah is understandable when we realize that Muslims too pay the Zakat, which is 2.5% of the Muslim individual's yearly income (with detailed rules).
In other words, whether being Muslim or non-Muslim, every citizen must take part in his\her society's needs. In other societies it's called taxes, but there is no taxes in Islamic Shari'a, instead there are Zakat & Jizyah.
Now, when you've understood the main rules for Jizyah, what is meant by; "with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued"?
The submission stated in the verse is meant by the submission to the general system, to the power of the government, to the sovereignty of the state. It's an indication that those who pay money for the state aren't paying it as a favor or bounty, but it's because they subject to the rules that govern their country.
It's not a submission from a man to a man, but it's the submission to the power of the government which applies on all citizens. This kind of submission exists in all democratic systems. There is no power beside the power and sovereignty of the state.
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Snake Hunters,
I'm not fooling you, I'm not performing "clever deception" on you. That's what I believe in, that's my religion. Believe me or not. Read my words carefully or ignore them. That's not my problem if you did not understand Islam, but it's about the refusal to make careful and unbiased research.
Mohamed - Your explanation of the Jizya & Zakat is excellent, and is easily understood.
However, "Fight those who do not believe in Allah nor in the Last Day"...is quite clear, needing no further clarification. -
Disbelief, in your culture..is a "criminal act"..that requires a severe punishment! - reb
Mohamed - On a totally different subject, I've been wanting to ask Rory if his serious try at quitting
smoking was really still working..
however, I didn't want to interrupt that pin-head from PorkyPas when he is making such a complete fool of himself!
reb
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Snake Hunters,
Sorry for taking so long to answer your last two comments. I was just busy in my new job.
You said; "Disbelief, in your culture..is a "criminal act"..that requires a severe punishment!"
If Islam truly considers only disbelieving in Islam as a "criminal act" then I guess only my speech with you and allowing you to comment on my blog is a crime!!!
No, that's not true. Islamic Sharia allowed friendly social relationships among Muslims and non-Muslims.
It is so apparent when we read the 5th verse of the 5th chapter in Holy Qur'an that says what means;
"This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them."
The words of the verses are so specific and accurate. Muslims and non-Muslims can exchange friendly food invitations, and consequently they can visit each other, befriend each other.
The same verse continues..
"(Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigue .."
Another verse clarifies the goal behind creating men in different races with different languages..
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. .."
On the other hand, war is only against those who want to attack Muslims. The difference among those non-Muslims who want to make peace and those who want to make war is so clear and specific in Islamic Sharia.
The hints in Qur'an about that differing between those who want war and those want peace is apparent in many verses like;
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. *..* And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression. * .. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. 2:191,193,194
The terms of the verses are clear. Fight against oppression, fight against those who fight against you, but if they cease Muslims must cease.
Another verse orders Muslims to obtain powerful weapons to prevent enemies from attacking, and assures that if the enemy offered peace we have to make peace with him:
"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
* But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). 8:60,61
And in many other verses you'll find this just, logical and peaceful principle: "Make War Against Those Who Make War Against You, And Make Peace With Those Who Want To Make Peace With You."
Snake Hunters,
You're mistaken. Disbelief in Islamic religion is NOT a "criminal act" according to Islamic Sharia.
Snake Hunters,
My last words for you..
Islam is wrongly understood because of many reasons. One of them is the acts of some extremist Muslims, and also the writings of some extremist western writers. Another important reason for misunderstanding Islam is the western Media that focuses on the bad things that some Muslims do and inflating them that leads at the end in terrorizing non-Muslims from Islam, and in the same time they ignore the good things that Muslims do.
Yes, there is a problem. Islam is misunderstood. Both Muslims and non-Muslims are essential parts of the solution..
Muslims must reveal the real spirit of Islam.
Non-Muslims must listen carefully and neutrally.
It's not so complicated to understand Qur'an. It only requires careful comprehensive reading.
Mohamed - I completely understand your words, and I read your post carefully on "Good Belief, Bad Believers"--a fine effort to build a bridge across a deep canyon of mistrust. Far below us, we see a turbulent, and violent river.
Read the 5000 year history of men..murdering each other..Read the 200 yrs of Christian Crusade, and the 1400 yr Muslim Holy Jihad Crusade, in "Continuum of Wars"
Men Everywhere.. are often deceitful & power-hungry, and bring pain, suffering and death to the innocent, and this includes Christian Popes, Jewish Rabbi & Muslim Grand Ayatollahs!
None are pure..All of them, fall far short..of the Grand Creator of a Vast Universe.
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So, if we are sincere in wanting a better world for future generations, we must all recognize both the positive and the negative in all of us...and that's a tall order for those among us that wish to impose our will & beliefs..
at all costs, including deceit, subtle political trickery, and extreme violence..and terror..to become 'victorious' -
As a young law student, you have been trained to look at the clear evidence, before making a judgement.
Mohamed; that's what I do.
Read these words of Jefferson very carefully...
"Fix reason firmly in her seat
Call to her tribunal every fact
every opinion
Question with boldness even the existance of a God...
Because if there be one, He must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear
Your own reason is the only Oracle given you by heaven, and you are answerable...
Not for the rightness, but uprightness - of the decision."
Thomas Jefferson - 1803 A.D.
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The Amatuerish, Albeit Sincere Researcher Of The Holy Qur'an...
will discover several things that he must learn..to avoid confusion:
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Learn: Abrogation > To change; to annul, to break off, to abolish by authoritative action. "Naskh"...
But Delete Nothing!
For Allah has The Power to Change Mohammad's (PBUH) early findings of Respect..for "People of the Book"...
Into a Hostile & Aggressive Dislike For Christians & Jews, along with Pagans, Infidels & "Non-believers"! - Qur'an 2:106
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The above dicta..grants absolute authority..to prevail (love & peace) in one location, and...
extremes of violence..(hatred and intolerance & cutting off heads & fingertips) for "non-believers"... everywhere else!
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Taqiyya & Kitman..are two more useful Muslim words that must be fully understood..to avoid more confusion.
Am I wrong, Mohamed? - reb
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Snake Hunters,
I'll begin with the words of the 3rd president of your own country, Thomas Jefferson.
Yes, questioning everything around us is very important for our lives, indeed it's what gives a meaning to our lives, it's the spirit that we live with.
Without allowing minds to work we're nonsense, even if we obtained big fortunes or reached the peak of technology.
That's why Islamic Sharia imposed the duty of contemplating in the world around us..
In the 3rd chapter of Holy Qur'an, we can read two great verses 190, 191 that order Muslims to realize the reasons by themselves, through their own minds, using the great tools given to them by God i.e. eyes, ears and mind..
"Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding,-
*Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (With the thought): "Our Lord! not for naught Hast Thou created (all) this! Glory to Thee! Give us salvation from the penalty of the Fire. "
The first verse draws our attention to the wonders of universe around us, the skies with all the stars and galaxies over it, the earth with all the creatures over and inside it, the sun and the moon. There is a lot to be searched and thought about.
Then the verse is ended by ".. there are indeed Signs for men of understanding" (In Arabic it's stated in Holy Qur'an as "Ouly al-albab" which is verbally translated as "those who have minds") which is a clear indication that.. To understand the world around you, Muslims, you must use your minds.
The second verse follows to confirm. Using minds is not limited by time, it's not just a part-time job, but instead it's a full-time duty. The verse speaks; You must contemplate in the creation around yourself in all the time, when you're standing, when you're sitting, and even when you're lying down on your sides.
Snake Hunters,
If that's what Jefferson and you believe in, then I think we have found a point of agreement.
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I'll answer your second comment in a couple of days.
Mohamed - It is wonderful..to use the brain..to contemplate the vastness of the universe..or to believe in the possibility of a creative force..within our galaxy, or out there, in the great beyond.
Scientists & True Environmentalists have noble ambitions to protect the natural resources we see in the mountains, valleys, deserts, and the agricultural plains, in rivers & oceans; all good, from sea to shining sea.
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It's when men become Greedy, and seek Too Much Power..over other men, other nations, other cultures and other religious beliefs..and seek to..Dominate Everyone & Everything..then that is hugely problematic..for All Humans!
Read Jefferson's 1st Amendment.
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Please continue. - reb
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Snake,
"and seek to..Dominate Everyone & Everything"
err... you mean, like USA?
Snake Hunters,
I think I owe you an apology for being so late to answer you. But you cannot imagine how I'm busy.
Anyway, I just want to correct a wrong information about "Abrogation" or "Naskh"..
Naskh applies on a very restricted area in Islamic Shari'a. Muslim scholars know exactly which verses in the Qur'an subjected to the Naskh.
The question here is; Do the Naskh apply on the "previous" verses that invited Muslims to be kind to non-Muslims, and only the "next" verses that invite to "fight" remain to be applied by next generations of Muslims?
It need a long explanation, but I'll do my best to be brief..
First of all, a quick look from a non-professional, ordinary person at the verses of the Qur'an will reveal a very important piece of information. There is no "previous" merciful verses, and "next" unmerciful verses, but in contrary there are many verses that invite Muslims to be merciful and just with non-Muslims, these verses were revealed AFTER MUSLIMS OBTAINED THE POWER IN MEDINA.
That's 100% accurate.
Without any details, and a quick review of Muslim history in points;
a) Qur'an was revealed verse by verse along 23 years.
b) Prophet Muhammad remained in Mecca inviting people to Islam for 13 years.
c) Along the 13 years, Muslims suffered from all kinds of hurt from infidels. Killing, torturing, siege, expropriation of money, etc.
d) At the end of the 13 years of sufferance, Allah ordered Muslims to immigrate to Medina, about 1000 km away from Mecca.
f) After the immigration of Muslims to Medina they had the power to build a new individual state, and they became a considerable power.
So, is that true that Allah ordered Muslims after their immigration to Medina to be kind and merciful to non-Muslims?
Yes, and millions of times YES.
It's not me who say that, but it's Qur'an that say so.
In the following few lines I'll quote verses from Qur'an, all were revealed in Medina, and all invite Muslims to be merciful with non-Muslims..
"Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will). " Read at: Chapter 3: Verse 64
"Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.
*They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.
*Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right. " Read at: Chapter 3: Verses 113-115
"This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good). " Read at: Chapter 5: Verse 5
"Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. " Read at: Chapter 60: Verse 8
"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. " Chapter 5: Verse 82
Snake Hunters,
I have no more to say. I await your words, and your questions if you are interested.
Mohamed - Thank you for responding.
IF muslims wish for more serious co-operation between faiths, and the Europeans & North American cultures have in place 'freedom of religion' in their laws, I believe it would show "good faith" for muslim nations to welcome Christians & Jews to freely build their temples and churches on muslim soil.
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I don't believe this will happen in my lifetime, or in yours. Sharia treats Apostasy with severe
penalties...including a death sentence.
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The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has said, "We are not here to be equal to other religions, we are here to dominate!"
So, the 1400 yr jihad war continues.
reb
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Snake Hunters,
Yesterday, I was watching a documentary program on National Geographic Abu Dhabi channel. It was about Anaconda, it's a snake like what you like to hunt. ;)
One part of the show attracted me so much. It was filming the female Anaconda as it gives its birth. After 40 little snakes came out, it started eating immature eggs and dead snakes. She accidently put her open mouth on a living snake, the little snake moved, and what did she do?
You cannot imagine.
She quickly get away her mouth off the little snake!!
Snake Hunters,
Mercy exists inside the most wild creatures, what about humans?!!
Snake Hunters,
If you believe that most Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims, then you are contradicting the very simple rule of life, Mercy exist in all creatures.
Think
Mohamed - I have never said "that most Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims." Never said it!
'Mercy'..exists in all cultures, but it does nothing to stop wars, or terror acts, or suicide bombings, or the stoning of women and girls..in Ahmadinejad's Iran.
The desire for power..exists.
As far as the "snakes you like to hunt"..these are the most violent ones that focus on killing innocents--to create terror--those insane people that fly airplanes into buildings, or strap bombs on their own women and kids, and send them into a market or crowded place, or the people that wish to dominate ALL cultures with a political, or a religious ideal. These people exist; always with us.
FACT: War is a continuum.
To ignore that there is both good & evil, is a huge mistake; none are pure; not one person is pure.
The Powerful, the Leadership.. Dream of Conquest & Domination, not the average citizen, not the average Muslim..and certainly not the innocent. The Biggest Snakes, are Leaders..that make outrageous claims..of piety!
I remember you saying it is wrong, very wrong to kill innocents...but in every war, many more innocents die, than warriors; THAT is the reality.
If only the highest leaders would die first, then their would be very few wars! What do you think about this..am I wrong, Mohamed?
The next big war will be the most horrific in mankind's history, much worse than WWII, and nobody will survive to be Dominant; hundreds of millions will die...
do you agree with that Mohamed?
That's what I believe. - reb
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Mohamed - I have often wondered, and I suspect that you do too, about the numbers (percentages) of people that claim a committment to a religion, are actually serious, and do so with their hearts, and not just for appearance sake.
In the U.S., how many attend their Christian churches regularly, not just at Easter & Christmas?
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For Muslims, how many eagerly attend mosque services..because they truly believe in the faith, and how many just feel a heavy pressure in the community to accept Islam?
Accurate numbers seem impossible, for Europe, or the United States.
After the first Iranian bomb detonates somewhere in the world, it will be probably be irrelevant.
reb
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Snake Hunters,
On July 12, 2010 you talked about abrogation and how you think it may affect verses of the Qur'an that invited Muslims to deal with mercy and justice with non-Muslims.
On July 29, 2010 I answered you, refuted this claim and quoted verses from Qur'an.
Do you have any thing to say responding my July 29's comment?
Mohamed - Statements & Opinions on July 12th and 29th - It is Good that these opinions be open and shared, and discussed; it's the nature of good discussion to have more than one or two serious thinkers on these complex subjects. Where are the other voices? I too, welcome serious opinions from other analysts!
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If they know something re "Naskh" and 'Abrogation'..they should really speak up! Amillennialist is a scholar that knows these complex things much better than this old fellow, if and when he is allowed here on Understanding Islam.
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I believe you said that "disbelief"
is not a crime under Sharia Law; is
'Apostasy' not a crime, punishable by death..for disbelief?
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Must the USA allow the Saudi Oil Wealth to build a 13-story mosque at the 9/11 site, where 3000 innocent workers died? The US allows 1200 mosques in the Land of the Free!
Lots more, on the complex questions, Mohamed; and too few answers.
Let us all hope for more "goodwill to men", and less and less terror as time passes. - reb
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